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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Dennis Glazener on September 07, 2009, 02:23:32 AM
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After having this kit a couple of years I finally got around to building it. I was able to talk Ed Wenger (VAriflegun) to do the carving (I didn't want to screw it up with mine!). I used LMF Honey Maple/Nut Brown and Chambers oil finish. I had planned to do the black spray paint thing and rub back the barrel to give it an aged look but I have about talked myself out of it. Then again I just might do it if its not too late.
Here are some photos, pardon my old digital camera (too good to replace but not good for good gun photos)
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Dennis,
The rifle turned out great!!! The fit and finish are nice and Mr. Wenger's carving looks wonderful.
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Dennis,
Very nice looking rifle. Look forward to seeing it before or after a barbeque sandwich soon!
Larry
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Very nice looking rifle and your friend did a nice job of carving it. Now you need a good Lehigh to complement it. They did a lot of incised work. Good one for you to carve yourself. You seem to have the drift of things.
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Wow ! That looks really Great ! Beautiful job !! ;D
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Very nice!
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Hey Dennis, I love the color and finish, great job!! I was hoping you'd be posting some pictures... Again, really nice looking rifle and I'm with Larry, would love to see it after some barbeque!
Ed
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Hi Dennis,
Very well done. It is a beautiful gun. You kept the corners nice and crisp and the inletting is very good. Ed's carving is superb. Did you or Ed create the designs, or did you work together on them? They are excellent. If it were my gun I would do nothing to the barrel (no treatment-let time do it) except file a decorative molding across the top 3 flats at the breech.
dave
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Dennis--
That sure is a nice looking rifle. You did a great job with the color.
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Hi Dennis,
Very well done. It is a beautiful gun. You kept the corners nice and crisp and the inletting is very good. Ed's carving is superb. Did you or Ed create the designs, or did you work together on them? They are excellent. If it were my gun I would do nothing to the barrel (no treatment-let time do it) except file a decorative molding across the top 3 flats at the breech.
dave
All the design and carving is Ed's work. I told him to design and carve whatever he felt right for the rifle. I am very pleased with the result.
Dennis
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If it were my gun I would do nothing to the barrel (no treatment-let time do it) except file a decorative molding across the top 3 flats at the breech.
Actually the barrel has been treated with Phosphoric Acid to give it the "French Grey" appearance. I liked it better than leaving it bare.
Dennis
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Great looking rifle Dennis, nice job. Is that a Dogwood on there?
Tim C.
PS: Wish I was there to eat BBQ's with you guys.
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Great looking rifle Dennis, nice job. Is that a Dogwood on there?
Tim C.
Thanks Tim, as to the Dogwood, you will have to ask Ed but I think it is but there is another flower that looks like the Dogwood, can't remember its name but I think it looks a lot like a Dogwood.
Dennis
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Nice design and execution on the carving Ed. Well done.
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Very nice Dennis, you did a super job on the finish. I really like the color and the finish. Has a good cast off I notice. I also like the barrel and the lock polished. Thanks for sharing the pics with us.
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Very Nice Dennis. ;D
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Clean and sharp looking. Nice job. Lots of cast or the photo appears that way. LB
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Tim...
The flower is kinda/sorta in the idea of an Edelweiss (sp?)... Thought it would add to the Germanic touch of a Lancaster rifle.
Ed
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Ed,
Nice job on the carving. When I first saw the post, I looked at the pictures and only skimmed the text.
Larry
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That's a rifle to be proud of. Great workmanship. Congrats!
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Very nice job,I'm building one of these now and was trying to decide on the color, Tonight i'm gonna do a sample of some left over honey maple as a base then LMF walnut over that.We'll see how that comes out,should be a little darker.
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A Classic!! The lines are all so clean and crisp and everything just looks artistically perfect....Thanks for posting it.
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Dennis......you know I will have to question something on your gun. How is the trigger pull? The trigger seems to be
forward in the guard and you might have it pinned too far from the sear bar which equates to a hard trigger pull. Other
than that, the overall finish looks great. That early lancaster builds into a great gun, and is so typical of the guns of this
period....they were not little guns...........Don
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Well done, Gentlemen. Handsome work. If it was mine, I would shoot it for a while and let it dirty up naturally before spray painting it.
Ed, congrats to you for your carving.
Tom
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Dennis......you know I will have to question something on your gun. How is the trigger pull? The trigger seems to be
forward in the guard and you might have it pinned too far from the sear bar which equates to a hard trigger pull. Other
than that, the overall finish looks great. That early lancaster builds into a great gun, and is so typical of the guns of this
period....they were not little guns...........Don
"Noticed it right off didn't put enough dirt down" (Wil Gere - Jerimiah Johnson)
Need skinny trigger finger! or no gloves... :) Hard pull - been there and done that! ::)
Beautiful rifle and plenty better than I could ever do!
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You guys did me proud! ;D Thanks for sharing the photos!
Barbie
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I had planned to do the black spray paint thing and rub back the barrel to give it an aged look but I have about talked myself out of it.
Dennis,
This statement is a bit confusing and could lead newbies down the wrong road. It seems to indicate that you were going to spray paint the barrel and rub it back. Please clarify.
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Dennis......you know I will have to question something on your gun. How is the trigger pull? The trigger seems to be
forward in the guard and you might have it pinned too far from the sear bar which equates to a hard trigger pull. Other
than that, the overall finish looks great. That early lancaster builds into a great gun, and is so typical of the guns of this
period....they were not little guns...........Don
Don,
The trigger pull is good. There is a large amount of slack before the trigger hits the sear bar. I suspect the trigger is as far forward as it goes in the photo. I thought about pulling the trigger and building it up to come closer to the sear bar. Or I might try to rig up a spring to hold it tight against the sear bar. Not used to these type triggers having to use double set triggers on my mountain rifles.
Dennis
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This statement is a bit confusing and could lead newbies down the wrong road. It seems to indicate that you were going to spray paint the barrel and rub it back. Please clarify.
That's correct but along with the barrel I would also spray the wood with flat black paint like Mike Brooks does.
The barrel was treated with Ospho (mostly Phosphoric Acid) and rubbing it and the black paint back with steel wool should leave it with a well aged look.
I have done this using tempra (sp) paint and Oxpho Blue (Brownell's also high in Phosphoric Acid) and it turned out well. Never tried the flat black but want to. Trouble is getting up the nerve to try it on a finished gun!
Dennis
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Very nice rifle Dennis. Inletting looks really clean. Good work!
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Very nice!
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I would like to know more--step-by-step--if you will how you used the 2 stains. I have used the nut brown and Jim's oil, but not running a "two-tone" Did you thin them or rub them back quite a bit before next coats (s)?
Nice clean rifle:)
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Looks GREAT to me, Dennis - congratulations.