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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: alex e. on April 29, 2021, 04:34:26 AM

Title: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: alex e. on April 29, 2021, 04:34:26 AM
https://www.naturabuy.fr/FUSIL-OFFICIER-DE-LA-MILICE-modele-1754-59-par-GRRILLET-A-CHALON-FRANCE-GUERRE-DE-7ANS-1756-1763-France-Tres-bon-Ancienne-Monarchie-Civil-Categorie-D-item-7292606.html

A , nice, honest French civilian arm of the 1750s. Parts to these have been found all over north America.
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Another nice piece,  Anchor marked,  meant that it came over to new France  thru the department of the Marine/navy.
This one was recently sold to  a museum in Canada.

https://www.museedelaguerre.ca/collections/artifact/2442056/?q=fusil&page_num=3&item_num=24&media_irn=5477432&mode=artifact
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: WESTbury on April 29, 2021, 05:05:52 AM
These are great guns, thanks for posting them.

Many years ago I met a gentleman from Canada, at the Glastonbury Gunshow near Hartford. He had an extensive display of French flintlock longarms that he had collected from all over eastern Canada. I always looked for him to return to Glastonbury, but he never did.
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: LuVerne Schumann on April 29, 2021, 12:09:28 PM
Love that muzzle and forend. Along with the flared, wooden ramrod tip.
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: JV Puleo on January 17, 2024, 05:26:57 PM
It isn't a civilian arms...it is described as the M1754 oficer's fuzee. (I'm not familiar enough with them to make a judgement but it looks right.) If so, it's an exceedingly rare French military arm. Unlike the British, fuzees were specified by pattern for junior officers in the French Army. They may have been issued...again, I doubt any of the pertinent records, if they exist, have been translated into English and I don't read French very well.

In any case, I've only seen pictures of one other and those were taken in the late 1920s.
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: debnal on January 17, 2024, 06:05:03 PM
I believe the actual price is $5984.00. That's actually not bad.
Al
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: backsplash75 on January 17, 2024, 11:01:00 PM
It isn't a civilian arms...it is described as the M1754 oficer's fuzee. (I'm not familiar enough with them to make a judgement but it looks right.) If so, it's an exceedingly rare French military arm. Unlike the British, fuzees were specified by pattern for junior officers in the French Army. They may have been issued...again, I doubt any of the pertinent records, if they exist, have been translated into English and I don't read French very well.

In any case, I've only seen pictures of one other and those were taken in the late 1920s.

Bianchi (French Military Small Arms Vol 1) has images of a "Infantry Officer's Musket Model 1754" that has similar barrel bands and fittings from that model, just tarted up a bit and higher finish work like incised lines around the edges of the bands. The lock has engraving. His text states that this is the first pattern regulation officer's musket. This would of course apply to the French regular (Metropolitan) army, not militia.
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: TF Black on February 10, 2024, 11:42:02 PM
Very cool-love those French lines. It reminds me very much of the French fusil fin on display at Ft. Ticonderoga:
https://fortticonderoga.pastperfectonline.com/Webobject/3E47355D-6CEC-43A8-8A7A-685564550200
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: Daryl on February 11, 2024, 01:53:39 AM
Anyone else see the vent liner? Interesting and it's location.
Title: Re: Not a $102,000.00 gun but an honest, higher end, French trade gun
Post by: oldtravler61 on February 11, 2024, 09:30:13 PM
   Daryl yes I did and I'm curious if it is brass or possibly a gold insert. Which I doubt but you never know. Not sure the actual asking price is.