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Title: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: steg49 on May 16, 2021, 06:03:18 AM
A friend asked me to sell a 50 cal muzzle loading rifle.  Before I would try to sell this rifle I needed basic information and condition.  Upon inspection I found no identification on the lock or the barrel.  I have attached photos of the lock and also the bolster which seems to be part of the barrel (not soldered on).  Any help would be apricated.  steg49
(https://i.ibb.co/qJdwrBx/IMG-3666.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z6rw4sN)

(https://i.ibb.co/NFWhfVN/IMG-3665.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4F4yCmS)

(https://i.ibb.co/nPstm2d/IMG-3667.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XYZMLB0)
Title: Re: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: Bob Roller on May 16, 2021, 04:38:23 PM
Low end lock.Can you show the rest of the gun??
Bob Roller
Title: Re: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: Hungry Horse on May 16, 2021, 04:53:02 PM
Looks like a cheaper modern import lock, with home grown bridle, and sear spring. I have no ideal about the breechplug, it not like any I’ve seen.

  Hungry Horse
Title: Re: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: steg49 on May 16, 2021, 07:05:58 PM
As Bob requested the rest of the rifle. The barrel pins are screws in the ramrod channel.  Inlays are well done and a nice piece of wood but just an unusual build.  Slow twist deep cut rifling.  steg49
(https://i.ibb.co/3cks7FC/IMG-3668.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hVCMydm)

(https://i.ibb.co/kg2wwHz/IMG-3669.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y7B11RJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/znwKR60/IMG-3670.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pm8BhDf)

(https://i.ibb.co/sw98NN0/IMG-3671.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k82NwwR)

(https://i.ibb.co/dDjgxMY/IMG-3672.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HqBd348)

(https://i.ibb.co/qpH5RLZ/IMG-3673.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TC69YS)

(https://i.ibb.co/NtV3knS/IMG-3674.jpg) (https://ibb.co/34rs8Yz)

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Title: Re: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: Hungry Horse on May 16, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
 I would dearly love to know if the builder never saw a properly constructed longrifle, or just ignored the path normally taken. Nicely made weirdo longrifle. Sad waste of a beautiful piece of wood.

  Hungry Horse
Title: Re: HELP on identifying a percussion lock
Post by: Bob Roller on May 16, 2021, 10:11:31 PM
The only odd thing is that lock and it may be all the maker had to use.
We all have seen low end locks on otherwise "not too bad"rifles and i
well recall the days when the lock had to be the cheapest thing on the
gun.If it weren't for the Germans in the late 1970's I would not have continued
with any muzzle loader work.I am nearly done with it now but will make triggers
probably until the end of this year.
Bob Roller