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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: scottmc on May 19, 2021, 04:49:57 PM
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Howdy gents, I'm going to get started on a southern pistol I've been sitting on for a while. .40 caliber tapered barrel, I think made by Dave Rase. It's in a piece of walnut. I'm a lefty but will build it right (wrong) handed. What would be a good sized english style lock to use for a pistol? I'm used to using the left hand manton and Cochran's for my rifles but never used any right hand locks in guns except the large siler....obviously too big for a pistol. Recommendations please!
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I just finished this pistol using the L&R Bailes lock. I really like it....it's a fast little lock that doesn't jar the pistol at all really.
(https://i.ibb.co/K7M6PDw/001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hHPs6cf)
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The Chambers or Kibler Late Ketland would be a good choice,
I think L&R makes a small Manton/Bailes left handed lock but
don't know about current quality contol.
Bob Roller
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(https://i.ibb.co/wrXWqcC/DSCN2429.jpg) (https://ibb.co/84p5wY2)
(https://i.ibb.co/fxMJtM3/DSCN2428.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCLkjLh)
Top lock is the Bailes, bottom is the Kibler. Both are the same length, the Kibler is a bit deeper. Building one now with the Bailes that has Mr. Rollers internals, gonna be hard to find one of those!
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I built this Verner pistol last year using a Stan Hollenbaugh lock. The lock has a facetted pan like a Siler (German) lock, but I Englished it by rounding the pan. Turned out nice.
(https://i.ibb.co/b30ktsS/100-2140.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jd19Zvf)
(https://i.ibb.co/xJzFSkC/DSC-1391.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9syZ9D8)
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Another Bailes.
(https://i.ibb.co/26rYdVL/54-English-Holster-Pistol-right-side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n0y8jdV)
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(https://i.ibb.co/wrXWqcC/DSCN2429.jpg) (https://ibb.co/84p5wY2)
(https://i.ibb.co/fxMJtM3/DSCN2428.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCLkjLh)
Top lock is the Bailes, bottom is the Kibler. Both are the same length, the Kibler is a bit deeper. Building one now with the Bailes that has Mr. Rollers internals, gonna be hard to find one of those!
I don't know how many of the L&R based Bailes locks I made and have given
brief thought reviving the idea but now think they are too labor intensive so
that won't happen.I made a good number of a very similar lock for a German
shop that made a Boutet copy using them.I got the moulds from TOW in 1978
or 79 and a few years ago gave them to Les Barber and Larry Zornes for their
Mould&Gun Shop.I don't know if they developed anything from them or not.
I used only the external parts on these locks as well as the Durs Egg and the
Ashmore.The last two flintlocks I made were Durs Egg and one had a reenforced
cock and IS one of a kind and delivered them to their buyer at the 2019 CLA
Show in Lexington with double set triggers.At this point in time the only things
I am making are the double set triggers and they are on a limited basis and
may be discontinued at the end of this year as well.
Bob Roller
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Thanks for the replies everyone!
It is very helpful to see the locks on a pistol. I'll decide between the Bailes or Chambers. I've used the Bailes multiple times on left hand rifles and it has always performed well, especially after Brad Emig gave them a tuning. I'm curious to use the chambers as everyone I know that has one has raved about it.