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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Dennis Glazener on September 10, 2009, 10:07:15 PM

Title: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Dennis Glazener on September 10, 2009, 10:07:15 PM

Anyone know of a decent original first model Bess that is for sale at a reasonable price? If so please email me at tdg23113@verizon.net
Thanks
Dennis

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Majorjoel on September 11, 2009, 01:57:01 PM

Hi Dennis, In all of my online travels, to find an original long land bess for sale is rare. To find one reasonably priced is in the pocket book of the beholder. Here is a site that has one for sale. It is a good place to keep tabs on if your interests are in weapons of revolutionary heritage and beyond. Good luck.....Joel  http://www.ambroseantiques.com/flongarms.htm

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Dennis Glazener on September 11, 2009, 05:03:39 PM

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Hi Dennis, In all of my online travels, to find an original long land bess for sale is rare. To find one reasonably priced is in the pocket book of the beholder. Here is a site that has one for sale. It is a good place to keep tabs on if your interests are in weapons of revolutionary heritage and beyond. Good luck.....Joel  http://www.ambroseantiques.com/flongarms.htm

Looks to be sold. But thanks anyway.
Dennis

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Majorjoel on September 11, 2009, 05:39:21 PM

Keep scrowling down the line of muskets Dennis. There is one that is still for sale with the asking price of 12,500.00. It is a pattern 1738.

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Dennis Glazener on September 12, 2009, 12:31:52 AM

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Keep scrowling down the line of muskets Dennis. There is one that is still for sale with the asking price of 12,500.00. It is a pattern 1738.

Thanks, I completely missed it the first time.
Dennis

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: lexington1 on September 12, 2009, 12:46:30 AM

Here is a commercial model by James Freeman that I've been lusting over:

http://www.antiquearms.co.uk/item_details.asp?p=734

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: msmith on September 12, 2009, 01:27:48 AM

Quote from: lexington1 on September 12, 2009, 12:46:30 AM

Here is a commercial model by James Freeman that I've been lusting over:

http://www.antiquearms.co.uk/item_details.asp?p=734

                                                                                                                                     WOW, now thats a mint Brown Bess

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: Dennis Glazener on September 12, 2009, 01:43:55 AM

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Here is a commercial model by James Freeman that I've been lusting over:

http://www.antiquearms.co.uk/item_details.asp?p=734

Yes! That is a nice one and the price is not bad (for what it is, $10,925 US) assuming it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to import it.
Dennis

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: lexington1 on September 13, 2009, 02:16:52 AM

I know this is a late 2nd model Bess, but I would also love to have this one!

http://www.csarms.com/scripts/csa_view2.asp?ID=4045

It's been cut down, but how cool this would a Queens Rangers marked Brown Bess be!

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: msmith on September 13, 2009, 06:53:27 PM

Quote from: lexington1 on September 13, 2009, 02:16:52 AM

I know this is a late 2nd model Bess, but I would also love to have this one!

http://www.csarms.com/scripts/csa_view2.asp?ID=4045

It's been cut down, but how cool this would a Queens Rangers marked Brown Bess be!

Another neat Brown Bess.Wonder if this was cut down for Horseman during service or was cut later?I have read about the "
Queens Rangers" but have not seen a marked weapon. Has anyone else.If this is legit,and it looks like it is, I would think it would be a significant piece.

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: lexington1 on September 13, 2009, 08:30:28 PM

There is another Queens Rangers Bess pictured in "Muskets of the Revolution" by Bill Ahearn. The barrel markings appear legit to me. Also the wrist plate sounds like it is marked similarly to the one on the book, although there is no picture on the site. There is something wrong with the lock. The hammer is wrong and it doesn't seem to match the barrel quite right. It could just be a bad reconversion. I'm not sure what to make of the shortening. Maybe it was used for horse service during its Revolutionary War serice, but I would guess probably cut down later (only a guess  ???). Still, with the Queens Rangers markings, it is very neat!

Title: Re: Original First Model Brown Bess
Post by: JV Puleo on September 14, 2009, 04:46:18 AM

Its a bad reconversion...sort of jumps off the screen.