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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Cory Joe Stewart on September 11, 2021, 01:01:05 AM
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So my next/current project is a smooth rifle drawing inspiration from two originals. Building it around a Brown Bess barrel. I also modified a Chambers Early Germanic lock.
(https://i.ibb.co/5rkqWDt/20210810-173301.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqzyMfk)
(https://i.ibb.co/tKk7GYg/20210810-173318.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dM1dTkF)
Starting the rough shaping
(https://i.ibb.co/QJTSDsT/20210820-150249.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zmB96KB)
(https://i.ibb.co/gDPWZcF/20210820-150253.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rZcp2Xf)
(https://i.ibb.co/drK2Rcg/20210820-150300.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPdBk3J)
(https://i.ibb.co/SyT3wRM/20210910-145008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qjGrYkc)
(https://i.ibb.co/wd9fWJ2/20210910-151533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zfn08Hb)
(https://i.ibb.co/kG3jgD1/20210910-153819.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgXbRdf)
(https://i.ibb.co/LtCLYxT/20210910-160750.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qsRt7NH)
(https://i.ibb.co/kJxZbm9/20210910-170409.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G90mYHt)
(https://i.ibb.co/KVkqgCh/20210910-160758.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qmfs8bj)
(https://i.ibb.co/fHVX7LV/20210910-170433.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VT0L850)
Cory Joe
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Cory,
Looking great so far. May I ask which originals inspired you?
Moravian and early rifles fascinate me and I like comparing notes.
Best,
Allen
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Cory,
Very nice!
Rob
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Too much hump at the breech.
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Probably dished out too deeply alongside of the tang. My eye says too deep too narrow. I hope that’s a wrong observation on my side.
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Cory,
Looking great so far. May I ask which originals inspired you?
Moravian and early rifles fascinate me and I like comparing notes.
Best,
Allen
I am looking at two smooth rifles in Moravian Gunbuilders II by Robert Paul Lienemann.
Thanks
Cory Joe
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Mike and Stoner,
Yes the breech area and the wrist need some work. Thank you.
Cory Joe
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Very interesting project you got going there, hope you can keep showing the build.
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It's short wristed and long butted too. Take a look at the proportions. Super long pull or something?
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It's short wristed and long butted too. Take a look at the proportions. Super long pull or something?
The pull is short 13 1/4. It was all I could get from the blank. I also noticed when I lay out the intended patchbox for a reference it is out of proportion. So I think the wrist needs to come back some.
Cory Joe
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yep.
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CJS: I think your tang should start bending down immediately behind the end of the barrel. You may need red heat to accomplish that, but it would go a long way to improving the wrist behind the barrel. Is there any way to shorten the depth of the rifle through the lock...inletting the barrel deeper, for example.
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CJS: I think your tang should start bending down immediately behind the end of the barrel. You may need red heat to accomplish that, but it would go a long way to improving the wrist behind the barrel. Is there any way to shorten the depth of the rifle through the lock...inletting the barrel deeper, for example.
I have thought about both suggestions. I think the answer will be a combination of the two. I will look at it when I get back to the shop on Tuesday.
Thanks!
Cory Joe
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So after a crazy week at the real job and a bout with gout Ingoy back in the shop and addressed the suggestions about the hump, breech and wrist area.
I appreciate everyones feedback.
(https://i.ibb.co/mDTwNnH/20210923-175618.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yfP14z8)
(https://i.ibb.co/kyqrtZn/20210923-175600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QcYq40B)
(https://i.ibb.co/S6QqbXR/20210923-161207.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tHZygM8)
Cory Joe
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(https://i.ibb.co/F4qFddv/20211008-153313.jpg) (https://ibb.co/23YTpp2)
(https://i.ibb.co/n8hQFzv/20211008-153309.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FqG8FgM)
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The contemporary makers blog has some excellent pics of the lion and lamb. I'd use those as a guide for shaping.
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The contemporary makers blog has some excellent pics of the lion and lamb. I'd use those as a guide for shaping.
Ive seen those. This is based on a couple of smoothrifles in the Moravian Gun Builders book.
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looking good CoryJoe. You have that step wrist working well.