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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: hawkeye on January 07, 2022, 02:47:13 PM
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I did some research and came to the opinion that this could be a Bob Roller lock
Do I got that right?
(https://i.ibb.co/3frRQyJ/Screenshot-20220107-124000-com-android-chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FsxHCbP)
(https://i.ibb.co/TPY8TWt/Screenshot-20220107-123735-com-android-chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7rjWzkK)
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It might be a mechanism from one of my locks transplanted.The sear spring doesn't look right.
IF I made the lock my semi circular signature and year date or USA is absent.I can't claim it or
completely disown it.
Bob Roller
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The rifle is for sale on a German site, so I believe that the Flint knapper sold before of your locks Bob
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The flint knapper was Guenter Stifter in Trimbs,Germany and I think his brother Dieter used that name as well.
Guenter was the first contact I had in Germany and he got a number of my locks and told Helmut Mohr about
me and I made locks for him for a long time for percussion schuetzen rifles as well as a small bore tatget pistol
plus a flintlock for copies of a Boutete pistol that was seen on the cover of DWJ (DeustscheWaffenJournal)in 1986.
Helmut wants me to make more locks but I am done with that phase of my life and plan to make a few triggers
from time to time as I feel like it.I still have material for these triggers and will hopefully use it all and then???
The recent floods in Germany took Helmut Mohr's shop out of the gun making for a while.He has a generator that
is powered by the Nette "River"which is a small,fast stream that can make it run and he has had problems with it
before but nothing like the recent floods.
I wish I could help more with that lock but I think someone has transferred some parts I made toanother plate and
as I said,that sear spring looks odd to me.
Bob Roller
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There is some form of stamping, under the main spring and is hidden by it. I can see a partical curved line of a stamp.
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I got the magnification to work and it is NOT my lock nor is any part of it mine.
Bob Roller
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The only thing I can see under the mainspring is part of the frizzen spring screw. It does form part of a curve.
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This looks like a kit rifle to me made from a pre-carved stock. The front area in the forestock looks like it is still a little "square".
The lock seems to be a Davis Twigg (altered at the end) or a L&R Manton.
The inlay work seems a little "crude" around the lock and some of the inlays, indicating a builder who did not do too many of these kits.
In addition, the tang is the oddest part on this rifle. Patent flint breech and then the tang more like a fowler. (Should have slimmed it down some to fit proportions in the wrist.
But probably hard to get parts in 1996 when there was no internet and everything catalogue.
I assume the barrel is parallel and seems to be good quality. Probably Green Mountain.
Probably a Singel set trigger, because of the adjustment screw.
Nice rifle I am also watching in my egun. But I won't buy it.
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Neither the Davis Twigg or the L&R Manton has a bridle with 2 screws at the top.
Before I magnified it I thought MAYBE it was an alteration on one of mine but that
is not the case here.Someone did a creditable job of making this one.
Bob Roller