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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: johngross on January 25, 2022, 05:27:43 AM

Title: J. Bean fowler
Post by: johngross on January 25, 2022, 05:27:43 AM
This sold (actually on "Hold") from their website in one day. I know many of you are interested in Bean firearms, so I thought you may find it interesting. I don't know if their "suggestion" of attributing it to the Beans of Tennessee is correct or not.

https://www.horsesoldier.com/products/firearms/longarms/39217

(https://www.horsesoldier.com/images/product/39/165070.jpg)

(https://www.horsesoldier.com/images/product/39/165083.jpg)
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on January 25, 2022, 08:51:13 PM
 ??? ???... I have never seen an original BEAN Tennessee rifle signed in script,.. (however, I haven't seen 'em all,.. !!!) ....but some moved to Indiana or Illinois in the mid 1800's and worked there,... Maybe,...? ... CCF
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Ray Nelson on January 25, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
Perhaps Joseph Bean who moved to Daviess County Illinois in 1830? He had a blacksmith/gunsmith shop near the Wisconsin border which I guess was called "Beans Mound" at that time. He moved to Vernon county, WI in 1856 purchasing land that is near today's LaFarge, WI.

He died there in 1868.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Ken G on January 25, 2022, 10:40:38 PM
Thanks for posting.  Very interesting gun to me. 

Cheers,
ken
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: cshirsch on January 26, 2022, 12:01:50 AM
There was a John Bean in Clay, PA and Lagrange Co., IN.  Also, a Joseph H. Bean in Cincinnati, OH.  A Joseph Russell Bean in the St. Genevieve area of Missouri.  And a Josiah Bean in Lawrence, Maine.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: cshirsch on January 26, 2022, 01:50:57 AM
John Bear in Lancaster Co. PA.   1825-1840  Flintlock and percussion rifles.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: cshirsch on January 26, 2022, 01:58:15 AM
There was also a Jacob Bear, many John Bears, and a Joseph Bear in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Collector on January 27, 2022, 07:07:38 AM
Spoke a while with Earl Lanning at last year's KY-TN Rifle show about the Bean family and he remarked and I quote, "There were just so many of 'em."

The conversation came about as someone had brought in an iron mounted rifle styled very much like the "Jos Bogel" rifle with a Bean attribution.

In the SMR collecting fraternity there are THE Beans. I'm not sure where any of the 'other' Beans fit in, except under their shadow.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: cshirsch on January 29, 2022, 03:43:59 PM
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_a__j__bear_signed_fullstock_flintlock_rifle_-lot495086.aspx   
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Curt J on February 04, 2022, 05:16:08 AM
I would love to believe that this one was made by Joseph Russell Bean, the youngest son of Russell Bean, who settled in Jo Daviess County, Illinois, in 1830, but I simply don't know. He was still working here in 1850, moving to Wisconsin 1n 1856. The 1850 industrial census indicates that he bought 100 feet of walnut and 100 feet of maple that year, at $2 for each wood. He also purchased 12 gun barrels valued at $36, and produced 12 rifles valued at $150.
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Longknife on February 04, 2022, 07:01:06 PM
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_a__j__bear_signed_fullstock_flintlock_rifle_-lot495086.aspx

I guess it was just too much trouble to show the alleged signature;;;;;
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Shreckmeister on February 15, 2022, 05:47:14 PM
Someone picked up a nice Bean from the Horse Soldier


(https://i.ibb.co/NCcD87C/bean-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jfn0cHf)

(https://i.ibb.co/mS0N8X2/bean-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wY7cswP)

(https://i.ibb.co/5h71cWC/bean-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7t9SyJB)

(https://i.ibb.co/TkJdwr1/bean-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NsfbF7r)
Title: Re: J. Bean fowler
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on February 18, 2022, 05:29:12 AM
This IS NOT a Bean gun. Please see Chris’ post.