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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: rich pierce on October 31, 2022, 01:40:57 AM

Title: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: rich pierce on October 31, 2022, 01:40:57 AM
https://www.proxibid.com/Guns-Military-Artifacts/Flintlocks/A-EARLY-CARVED-FLINTLOCK-KENTUCKY-RIFLE/lotInformation/72105968
I’ve seen it somewhere before. I’m not sure it’s American and would like to see a wood test. Look at the grain in the picture around the entry thimble.

Big smooth rifle; architecture reminds me of RCA 17.
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on October 31, 2022, 02:26:35 AM
That was in one of Whisker's books (Early American something or other) and possibly in one of Harzler's books also, not sure.

I feel pretty positive it's Euro Walnut.  Sure looks like it.  Probably Euro gun that came here and got used. 

I have no idea what "Draft of..." is supposed to mean.  Is the thing chilly or breezy?
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: rich pierce on October 31, 2022, 03:27:33 AM
That was in one of Whisker's books (Early American something or other) and possibly in one of Harzler's books also, not sure.

I feel pretty positive it's Euro Walnut.  Sure looks like it.  Probably Euro gun that came here and got used. 

I have no idea what "Draft of..." is supposed to mean.  Is the thing chilly or breezy?
Draft beer or ale, methinks. Lots of it led to the carving design.  ::)

I think we don’t get exposed to plain-ish, unsigned early European guns very often, predisposing us to think that such a gun must be colonial. Stocked in maple, it would make a nice colonial smooth rifle.
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: WESTbury on October 31, 2022, 04:57:05 AM
This is not a mystery rifle, it is RCA 8 with restorations to the forend and a reconned lock.

I personally think that is a pretty desirable rifle.
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: rich pierce on October 31, 2022, 05:08:38 AM
This is not a mystery rifle, it is RCA 8 with restorations to the forend and a reconned lock.

I personally think that is a pretty desirable rifle.

Ah yes that’s where I saw it. Agree it’s desirable but am a little surprised it’s listed as a Kentucky rifle. But, maybe there’s been enough auction house listing-bashing recently.
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: WESTbury on October 31, 2022, 02:07:19 PM
Ah yes that’s where I saw it. Agree it’s desirable but am a little surprised it’s listed as a Kentucky rifle. But, maybe there’s been enough auction house listing-bashing recently.

Rich-- You are right! Why, I have not bashed any auction houses since last week!!!!! ;D

I believe that Morphy's description of this lot was pretty good in spite of the "Kentucky Rifle" label.
Title: Re: Whaddyathink of this cool old gun?
Post by: rich pierce on November 18, 2022, 08:23:51 PM
Sold for $3969 fees included. Very affordable.