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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: rich pierce on January 14, 2023, 02:32:21 AM

Title: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: rich pierce on January 14, 2023, 02:32:21 AM: I guess it’s in the public domain. Picked up at a garage sale, so the story goes. Get out there, folks!

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Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: davebozell on January 14, 2023, 03:27:23 AM: Very cool. Love the tang carving. Anyone know where it might have been built?
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: rich pierce on January 14, 2023, 03:40:49 AM: Quote from: davebozell on January 14, 2023, 03:27:23 AM
Very cool. Love the tang carving. Anyone know where it might have been built?

I’d like to know what the wood is. Sure looks European, Germanic, 1750 plus or minus. Interesting no patchbox, suggests always a smoothbore. It’s .65 caliber.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Nailcreek on January 14, 2023, 08:54:14 PM: I saw that as well ... apparently, I frequent the wrong yard sales ;D

What I found interesting was the similarities between that cheekpiece and that of the remnant buttstock I posted.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on January 14, 2023, 09:42:40 PM: A lot of folks think that anything European has to be full blown decorative and excessive, but this is not the case. I remember scouring Hermann Historica auctions through the 90s and they VERY often had 'bundles' i.e. 2 or 3 very plain or crude rifles/smoothbores in a single bidding, and usually those things would go for under $1K for the lot. Many of the pieces might have easily passed for remnants of early American pieces had they not been auctioned through a German auction house. I definitely remember Chris Immel making comments to this effect as well although he seems to have dropped off the planet at this point.

This piece here is neat, but I sincerely doubt it's American.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on January 15, 2023, 01:40:14 AM: Several years back Ken Guy picked up a wonderful rifle at a yard sale complete with bag and horn!
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: JTR on January 15, 2023, 02:10:04 AM: No Pa rifle garage sale finds here, but I did pick up a very nice condition Spencer repeating rifle for $150.00 once upon a time. ;D
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: davebozell on January 15, 2023, 03:45:02 AM: I saw the post on social media after I posted here. The consensus was that it was made in Germany.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: rich pierce on January 15, 2023, 05:16:05 AM: Quote from: davebozell on January 15, 2023, 03:45:02 AM
I saw the post on social media after I posted here. The consensus was that it was made in Germany.
I agree. Outstanding tang carving, love the architecture. Nice inspiration for an early rifle made here or there. Guessing with rounded toe (I think) and no patchbox it was always a smoothbore.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Daryl on January 15, 2023, 07:17:47 AM: Quote from: rich pierce on January 14, 2023, 02:32:21 AM
I guess it’s in the public domain. Picked up at a garage sale, so the story goes. Get out there, folks!

(https://i.ibb.co/fDNLWKc/7-D04-B3-A1-F63-F-43-F0-BC58-099139-FCCF80.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFgdbc4)

Rich - I find that brass snap-haunce quite interesting as well.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: rich pierce on January 15, 2023, 01:38:16 PM: Quote from: Daryl on January 15, 2023, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: rich pierce on January 14, 2023, 02:32:21 AM
I guess it’s in the public domain. Picked up at a garage sale, so the story goes. Get out there, folks!

(https://i.ibb.co/fDNLWKc/7-D04-B3-A1-F63-F-43-F0-BC58-099139-FCCF80.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFgdbc4)

Rich - I find that brass snap-haunce quite interesting as well.
Probably not a garage sale find, Daryl!

Lots of neat details on this gun. Look at the long and nicely shaped trigger plate and that the guard has a nice shaping of the end of the bow where it abuts the trigger plate.

Unusual to find a rifle-style buttplate on a gun like this.
Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Daryl on January 15, 2023, 10:14:14 PM: Yes indeed.
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Title: Re: Great early rifle shared on social media
Post by: Bob Roller on January 16, 2023, 01:20:45 AM: Around here we call those GROJ sales. GetRidOfJunk and every so often something of real interest shows up.In 1954 I stopped at a moving sale and almost passed out when I saw 2 pistols on the mantle and asked about them and was told that $40 WOULD BUY THEM.I bought them and they were consecutive numbered in pristine condition.Sold them in 1956 to the chief pilot of a local coal company for $500.
Bob Roller