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Title: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Dave Willer on February 09, 2023, 06:53:11 PM
Modified a Kibler kit that had a broken forestock. .36, barrel cut at end of original taper. Soldered rib and poured nosecap.
(https://i.ibb.co/10XgJ29/E18-A76-B5-43-C3-4181-B61-E-4-ED174-B4-DB44.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0n97VJf)

(https://i.ibb.co/gWsrTwS/9-F7-C5-FA0-CC27-46-B2-9-BEE-669-AE1-F3-B1-EB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s1LgwQK)

(https://i.ibb.co/gWfV4YN/596-F2-B59-67-D7-4676-BDBD-3-D1-DFD0-B3698.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5jSFKZm)

(https://i.ibb.co/kS0B74Q/180-AFCAE-4-DD3-4358-A165-2-CF5-B55-EA460.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bKLm0sz)

(https://i.ibb.co/yFYhdqy/87-C7-F849-006-C-4-FA6-A566-81881-BF4-C945.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MkG8Z7V)
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Carl Young on February 09, 2023, 06:58:59 PM
That's neat, I like it!

Carl
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Gemmer on February 09, 2023, 07:00:20 PM
Nice save!
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: J Shingler on February 09, 2023, 07:04:17 PM
Well done.  Looks good. Very nice shop too!
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: TDM on February 09, 2023, 07:46:11 PM
Very nicely done! The wood is beautiful.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Daryl on February 09, 2023, 10:44:00 PM
Cool beans - NIFTY.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: bnewberry on February 09, 2023, 10:47:31 PM
Nice work! Next you will be converting the lock to percussion.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: MuskratMike on February 10, 2023, 01:04:00 AM
OMG, if Jim offered them with this option along with the full stock he would be covered up in orders. Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: PIKELAKE on February 10, 2023, 01:25:51 AM
I bet that is a swell handling rifle.   JZ
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Hank01 on February 10, 2023, 01:43:01 AM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Bassdog1 on February 10, 2023, 01:59:58 AM
I hope Kibler offers a half stock percussion someday.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: 46powerwagon on February 10, 2023, 02:39:47 AM
Very nicely done. Excellent save !!! Very nice wood. And a very nice shop!
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Dave Willer on February 10, 2023, 03:01:41 AM
If I new how to reply I would say thank you. Been following on this site for years but first post. Would be grateful if someone takes the time and tells me how to respond to you all as an individual.

Regards!
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Ed Wenger on February 10, 2023, 03:28:47 AM
Nice!  👍👍.    Personally, I like the looks of the half stock better than a full stock.   Best,

           Ed
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: LilysDad on February 10, 2023, 03:42:39 AM
What is the purpose of a full stock other than style?
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Gaeckle on February 10, 2023, 04:44:05 AM
What is the purpose of a full stock other than style?

Style
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Ky-Flinter on February 10, 2023, 05:07:00 AM
If I new how to reply I would say thank you. Been following on this site for years but first post. Would be grateful if someone takes the time and tells me how to respond to you all as an individual.

Regards!

Hi Dave,

To send a personal message to another member,  go to a post by the other member and look under their name.  Several rows down, click on the text balloon.  That will open the personal message box.  The message will automatically be addressesd to the other member.  Fill in the subject line and type your message and press send.

Hope this helps. Send me a personal message if you want to practice.

Ron
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: T.C.Albert on February 10, 2023, 10:05:47 AM
That looks great. How did you make and attach the under-rib? Would you be able to share a few images of that too? Thank you,
TCA
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Joey R on February 10, 2023, 04:35:13 PM
Yes please more on the under rib on that swamped barrel.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Jim Kibler on February 10, 2023, 05:38:32 PM
That sure is pretty!

Jim
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Dave Willer on February 10, 2023, 06:24:20 PM
That sure is pretty!

Jim


Thank you, a fun project!

Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Dave Willer on February 10, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
I bet that is a swell handling rifle.   JZ


Does balance very well. Still a little muzzle weight for a good hold.

Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Dave Willer on February 10, 2023, 06:54:46 PM
That looks great. How did you make and attach the under-rib? Would you be able to share a few images of that too? Thank you,
TCA

Still having some difficulties navigating this site. The underib is a hollow type that better follows a tapered barrel. Pipes are silver soldered to rib then rib was soft soldered to barrel due to a lower melting temperature. Cap is tin. Here are a few pic’s. Rifle does balance well.

(https://i.ibb.co/1qGPf75/67-D0-F4-C0-742-F-4-CEA-939-B-F5-E0-F7-DDF51-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zRVBhQY)

(https://i.ibb.co/25T22R7/87900-A35-CBA2-419-D-A985-7-DFFBC46-A158.jpg) (https://ibb.co/t39ffnM)

(https://i.ibb.co/vPLnkPs/B06-CFA1-C-5654-495-C-BA8-B-EE5-FAD7336-E8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qsmQps0)

(https://i.ibb.co/M19JPhK/098-E0-BB1-9480-4862-A61-D-DDF5765413-BB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z2NtP5C)

(https://i.ibb.co/Y2qv818/45-FE3-AE5-4-F4-A-4450-818-E-8666488-DC6-FA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6Yf6bTb)

(https://i.ibb.co/Ct5n2Hp/073-B18-FC-5-BD3-440-C-8359-2281-DE5-EFFE1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W3Wct2N)
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Bob Gerard on February 11, 2023, 02:47:20 AM
You’re very talented and made a great looking rifle! Congratulations 🙂
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Spalding on February 11, 2023, 03:52:03 AM
That is a very nice, clean looking build. The “just enough” patchbox engraving compliments it so well.
I love it.


Shop ain’t half bad, either.

Bob
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: dogsbreath on February 11, 2023, 03:59:37 AM
As someone with a damaged left shoulder this creates options for me "down the road". I have a Kibler SMR in .45. and still am able to hold and shoot reasonable well. Yeah, that reasonably well part is subjective. Anyhow BEAUTIFUL JOB  Just curious did you weigh the modified barrel.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: alacran on February 11, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
Wow you did a beautiful job. I take it the amount of barrel you cut off, made up for the weight of the under rib.
So far that is my favorite Kibler SMR adaptation.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: flinchrocket on February 11, 2023, 07:04:04 PM
That was an exceptional job, but I was wondering, did you consider a wood rib without cutting the barrel?
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: axelp on February 11, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
I like the idea of trying a wood rib...
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: skratch on February 12, 2023, 09:46:16 AM
Excellent transformation, looks like it was born that way.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Scota4570 on February 12, 2023, 08:06:41 PM
That is very nice.  A tempting project indeed. 

Kibler sells carving practice stocks.  I got one and was temped to make a halfstock.  The forend was cut off just a hair too short.  I bet he could sell them for halfstock projects. 

The wood rib sounds like a great idea.  In addition to the loops and pins it could be secured with epoxy.   I have not seen any sheet metal folded ribs lately.  One can hollow out a solid rib with a milling machine and save a lot of weight.   

Are the wood ribs best made with a shooting board and router planes? 
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: P.W.Berkuta on February 12, 2023, 09:23:03 PM
OK -- now you did it! Another rifle on the list ;D. Everything about that rifle is spot on. I'm not a big fan of the SMR but this one is absolutely gorgeous. I have a full stock flinter that I started 10 or more years ago that I lost interested in finishing now I know what to do with it ;).
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: alacran on February 13, 2023, 04:15:28 PM
That is very nice.  A tempting project indeed. 

Kibler sells carving practice stocks.  I got one and was temped to make a halfstock.  The forend was cut off just a hair too short.  I bet he could sell them for halfstock projects. 

The wood rib sounds like a great idea.  In addition to the loops and pins it could be secured with epoxy.   I have not seen any sheet metal folded ribs lately.  One can hollow out a solid rib with a milling machine and save a lot of weight.   

Are the wood ribs best made with a shooting board and router planes?
Taylor Sapergia has a Hawken tutorial. In it he shows how to file the MBS hollow under ribs to make them look like swaged sheet metal.
Soldering on an under rib is way easier than making a wooden under rib and using tenons to keep it in place.
Soldering an under rib is also much faster than riveting them on or screwing them on.
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on February 13, 2023, 04:31:57 PM
 8) 8)... An original Tennessee rifle made in the Holston Valley style that I once had,.. a thin, graceful rifle with a wood rib made of hickory,.. it had once been a fullstock, but probably broken, nosecap moved back and wood rib attached  to the existing barrel staples with pins, and rammer pipes pinned to rib,..... I have only seen two original Tennessee rifles with wood ribs,... they are unique,.... I like your idea, and you built a nice looking rifle,.. regards,.. CCF
 
(https://i.ibb.co/dD2n1vM/312194529-1489921298175695-8641420664016266148-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hqzm1y4)
Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: Daryl on February 14, 2023, 12:41:19 AM
Here is my clubby nonPC full stock rifle to 1/2 stock with a curly maple under rib, converted from FS by Taylor.
(https://i.ibb.co/QmZXymy/100-4713-zpsa9c3c86d.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j4dHn4n)
(https://i.ibb.co/8BWqk89/100-4714-zps9c87cd1a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mBLkpz4)

Title: Re: Kibler Southern Mtn. Half Stock Conversion
Post by: diamante on February 14, 2023, 01:12:40 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/7pZZWpL/0-D60846-A-620-F-4946-831-E-18008-EF1-EA95.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T07780d)
This looks like a wood ribbed rifle with a long barrel.