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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: monro1066 on March 19, 2023, 02:53:31 AM

Title: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: monro1066 on March 19, 2023, 02:53:31 AM

Im looking at building a York school Ky.
Will the Durs Egg lock be suitable?
TY in advance .
Don

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: Mike Brooks on March 19, 2023, 02:57:25 AM

Something germanic.  Siler etc.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: Stoner creek on March 19, 2023, 03:59:06 AM

Chambers Golden Age would be a great choice.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: alacran on March 19, 2023, 02:13:48 PM

If you go to the virtual library and look at York rifles, you will find some with English locks. If you are looking to build a Shroyer rifle, then a Germanic lock would be appropriate.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: smart dog on March 19, 2023, 02:25:41 PM

Hi,
Go here and find out for yourself.


https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?board=345.0

dave

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2023, 02:31:08 PM

I usually think timeframe as well as style. The Durs Egg seems best used on 1790s- early 1800s  longrifles. I’m not sure that style of English lock was exported before then.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: smart dog on March 19, 2023, 05:02:28 PM

Hi,
The L&R Durs Egg lock is from the late 1770s through the 1780s when the fashion was for a roller bearing to be mounted in the toe of the frizzen rather than on the feather spring.  Here is a lock on an H. W. Mortimer fowler from the early to mid 1780s.
(https://i.ibb.co/QcRK675/finished-restoration-23.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3sqC05J)

(https://i.ibb.co/ftdpYww/mortimer-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WFvyWJJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/JHprHFm/mortimer-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dDpkDJj)

(https://i.ibb.co/BBvMKDx/mortimer-11.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w48mrHX)

As Rich wrote, probably few locks of that quality were imported and used on American long rifles during the 18th century. 

dave

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: monro1066 on March 20, 2023, 12:30:02 PM

TY for the replies
Looking at American Classic by Land R .
on T O T  Wolf  website ...seems like a good basic lock ?

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: rich pierce on March 20, 2023, 01:21:01 PM

Quote from: monro1066 on March 20, 2023, 12:30:02 PM

TY for the replies
Looking at American Classic by Land R .
on T O T  Wolf  website ...seems like a good basic look ?

Looks very similar to a Siler lock. The Chambers Siler, Golden Age, and Deluxe Siler are good options if a Germanic style is wanted.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: deepcreekdale on March 22, 2023, 02:21:28 AM

Quote from: monro1066 on March 20, 2023, 12:30:02 PM

TY for the replies
Looking at American Classic by Land R .
on T O T  Wolf  website ...seems like a good basic lock ?

What Rich said. Notice the maker he recommended. L & R can be made into a decent lock, but it is best to think of them as a starting point. They often need more tuning and polishing to get optimal performance. If you are starting out, stick with Chambers products.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: Mike Brooks on March 22, 2023, 03:09:40 PM

Don't cheap out, you'll regret it later.

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: monro1066 on March 23, 2023, 07:56:25 AM

Thankyou all ...Id say this forum is about the best place for novices as I am.
..Regds D

Title: Re: Lock Choice for Various schools
Post by: monro1066 on March 25, 2023, 03:04:57 AM

Decided on the Golden Age Chambers ....all good ......and thankyou all .....
hoping lockplate not over big as TOW doesnt state lock size  in their online
catalogue .