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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: Dphariss on May 03, 2023, 07:22:29 PM
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OK
Trying to save ink and toner here and give something that can be seen. 25 yards, 5 shots standing, 1/2 ball to score the higher score. Since we shot rest last go around and turnout was low will try this. I won’t shoot it for score. Somebody else can pick next time ;) So get out and shoot.
https://targets4free.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NRA-B-4-Target-Red-Center-Adapted-by-Targets4Free.pdf
I printed them in color and B&W. Both look good and should work OK.
(https://i.ibb.co/RPddbjm/IMG-2532.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gwhh94p)
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Both will work well, DP.
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Looks good.
I printed some targets but I don't know if I'll get to shoot it.
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Dan,
I'm sure that we'll give it a try but my offhand is laughable ;D
J.B.
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Dan,
I'm sure that we'll give it a try but my offhand is laughable ;D
J.B.
Practice makes perfect. ::)
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(https://i.ibb.co/zF46Byz/0504231914.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xY7FBpN)
I shot these targets yesterday afternoon. It was a glorious Midwest Spring day. Temperatures were in the low 70s, the wind was less than 3 miles per hour, and the sun was shining.
I was at a friend's farm and the only negative was that we had to lather ourselves up with vanilla extract to keep the Buffalo gnats at bay.
I was shooting my Bucks county .54. I shot the first target on the left with 60 grains of Goex 2f, JoAnn's drill 40 and a .530 ball. The second target was the same except I used 70 grains of 2F.
I suppose I need to file a bit of the front sight. I built the rifle seven years ago and sighted in with the 60 grain load. That was before I had cataract surgery. After that the gun consistently shot low. So i will file down the front sights.
I was going to shoot another target but my left shoulder was starting to bother me, so I called it a day.
I overlayed the targets over a clean one in order to score them. I came up with a 35 on the left one and a 44 on the right. Of course it is up to Dan to make the call.
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Good groups, alacran!!
always THE "flier".
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Lol, yeah, I'd struggle with a group like that from the rest!
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Alacran,
Excellent shooting!. You have set the bar high or as Marc said "There's not much meat left on the bone." Will drag out my .32 and give it a go as soon as I can get away to the range. Prepare for a laugh! ;D
J.B.
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Nice shooting Alacran.
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I see you down 6 on the best target for the 44.
75-80 gr might bring it up. But if you have shoulder issues it might not be a good idea.
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I did the math and filed the front sight a little. It had always shot pretty good with 60 grains. I have mostly used this rifle as a hunting rifle, and my hunting load is 95 grains of 2f.
I have taken 3cow elk with it ranging from 35 yards to 95 yards. It is a very light rifle. I hope to try it again tomorrow. I am right handed and my surgery was on the left arm. The recoil is not bothering me as much as holding the gun up is. Haven't recovered my strength yet.
I'm going to print some targets in B&W, not sure if the red center helps or hinders.
(https://i.ibb.co/LYvHf8k/IMG-0514.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hLCwvy7)
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Hopefully, we can get out in a week.
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Been dealing with hang fires. Unbreeched the gun and found a fouling cake at the breech. I will scrape from now on! Hope that this week I shoot better.
(https://i.ibb.co/Th40tzW/A76-D05-D5-9966-4782-A4-B7-5-B170-B22-D479.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NY9NKwT)
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Went pot yesterday to the Buck Creek range. I guess I was too cautious with my front sight filing. Didn't take off enough to bring up my POI with 60 grains of 2f. That was the target on the left. the other two were shot with 70 grains of 2f. Was fighting my wobble all morning and was being inpatient as well.
Best out of this bunch scored a 40. I dont think the red center really made much difference, Will try this again.
(https://i.ibb.co/mBxWxwk/0510230521.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z5kvkYp)
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Okay, fun but frustrating day at the range. J.B. and I finally got a day without rain, but humidity was heavy. My Hawken capgun is too heavy for offhand work, so .50 swamped flintlock it was. I do enjoy offhand, and that is 90+ % of my practice time.
Started off doing well, but soon got into failures to ignite prime, delays, misfires and hangfires. J.B. noted the Chambers/Evrard lock was throwing sparks, but the prime was not igniting. Normally this rifle is extremely reliable at ignition. The pan, flint and frizzen were wiped between each shot, and those were wiped clean of oil with alcohol last night. The priming powder just would not ignite. 4F Swiss. I think perhaps it had gone stale or damp in my range primer.
The target here was shot in this order. 10. 10. 7 (called). 9. Misfire. Misfire. Hangfire = 4 (or 5). That last one I thought was a misfire and started lowering the rifle. Grrrrrr. J.B. got to hear some choice words. My apologies!
So I think it scores a 40 or 41, not enough to challenge the lead, that is for sure.
Best wishes to those heading out to shoot some more targets. God Bless, Marc
(https://i.ibb.co/wNJPzZq/May-Target.jpg) (https://ibb.co/278Ck0r)
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Marc you started out on fire , then the joy of flintlocks bit you. Good shooting even with the hangfire. Plenty of time left, not even the middle of the month yet.
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Dan,
I promised you that I would shoot a target and I promised it would be an occasion for laughter. Please note that I have delivered both plus a bonus. I didn't notice until I returned home that I can no longer count. ;D. My shotgun is .32 caliber using 27 grains of Goex FFFG, a .31 ball and .018 canvas. Good grief the wobbles! Wife says I need to start working on upper body strength. At 79, I'm not sure if there is much to work with. Anyway, target disqualified!
However, as always, it was a fun day with Marc on the range and I improved my vocabulary by listening to Marc's conversations with his rifle. The two of them sure had some animated discussions! There was something about the makings for a not so decent tomato stake. Thought I was going to have to rescue the rifle. Fun day!
J.B.
(https://i.ibb.co/DbpF17H/May-oops023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hMfNgKJ)
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alacran,
I'm new to this postal shooting and never did it, but I want to try it one day.. I'm a little confused and have a question. On your reply #5 the two targets. The holes look like they were made by wadcutters, they are so sharp.....when I shot PRB my holes never look that clean.....Not being a smart a$$, just want to learn....Thanks, Pete
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If you have a cardboard backer behind the target, the holes will be sharper in detail. As well, the higher the velocity, the sharper in detail are the edges.
Put them together and you have sharp detailed holes.
Marc's target looks like a solid 41 to me, solid & not even close to a 40.
Just got home from the first trip. Have to get the trailer and boat motor ready. Might not have time to shoot this month's target, but will try. Depends as well on Taylor.
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Just to clarify JBJ’s post. It was clearly not the rifle’s fault, as it is an exceptional shooting piece of art. I was frustrated and PO’ed at the priming situation. Time to clean out my primer!
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Dan,
I promised you that I would shoot a target and I promised it would be an occasion for laughter. Please note that I have delivered both plus a bonus. I didn't notice until I returned home that I can no longer count. ;D. My shotgun is .32 caliber using 27 grains of Goex FFFG, a .31 ball and .018 canvas. Good grief the wobbles! Wife says I need to start working on upper body strength. At 79, I'm not sure if there is much to work with. Anyway, target disqualified!
However, as always, it was a fun day with Marc on the range and I improved my vocabulary by listening to Marc's conversations with his rifle. The two of them sure had some animated discussions! There was something about the makings for a not so decent tomato stake. Thought I was going to have to rescue the rifle. Fun day!
J.B.
(https://i.ibb.co/DbpF17H/May-oops023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hMfNgKJ)
That target may or may not be disqualified. Normally the highest scoring shot is not scored in a situation like this, in CF matches, so I would score that as a 37/50. - 13.
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By NMLRA rules your target would not be disqualified either. Same as what Daryl says.
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alacran,
I'm new to this postal shooting and never did it, but I want to try it one day.. I'm a little confused and have a question. On your reply #5 the two targets. The holes look like they were made by wadcutters, they are so sharp.....when I shot PRB my holes never look that clean.....Not being a smart a$$, just want to learn....Thanks, Pete
Tell you the truth, I was surprised too since I used plain 20# copy paper. I posted the targets on a wooden target board and I assume that is why they cut so clean.
The targets I posted on reply #14 were placed on a plastic target board and they have ragged edges, which is what I usually get with 20# paper.
The plastic backer boards never leave a clean hole even when new since the balls don't cut clean through them.
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I thought I would get in on the fun, but don’t have access to a printer out here in the Tennessee woods.
I fired up my old Bedford .36 caliber. Took a few shots to get on target and loose the flinches. My second five was better after I got my follow through down. 69 year old eyes don’t help.
Not for score, but the black is 4” in diameter.
(https://i.ibb.co/hZz5xDJ/C2-E6-CB1-D-6-F8-C-4-E15-ACD7-3-D927223277-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VQ4y02c)
(https://i.ibb.co/hY46jVC/0-CA81-A67-C278-460-C-A6-FA-3-D37161-B3-DC3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CPYcZQW)
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Nice shooting Oakabow. PM me an address and I will send you some targets.
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Okay, fun but frustrating day at the range. J.B. and I finally got a day without rain, but humidity was heavy. My Hawken capgun is too heavy for offhand work, so .50 swamped flintlock it was. I do enjoy offhand, and that is 90+ % of my practice time.
Started off doing well, but soon got into failures to ignite prime, delays, misfires and hangfires. J.B. noted the Chambers/Evrard lock was throwing sparks, but the prime was not igniting. Normally this rifle is extremely reliable at ignition. The pan, flint and frizzen were wiped between each shot, and those were wiped clean of oil with alcohol last night. The priming powder just would not ignite. 4F Swiss. I think perhaps it had gone stale or damp in my range primer.
The target here was shot in this order. 10. 10. 7 (called). 9. Misfire. Misfire. Hangfire = 4 (or 5). That last one I thought was a misfire and started lowering the rifle. Grrrrrr. J.B. got to hear some choice words. My apologies!
So I think it scores a 40 or 41, not enough to challenge the lead, that is for sure.
Best wishes to those heading out to shoot some more targets. God Bless, Marc
(https://i.ibb.co/wNJPzZq/May-Target.jpg) (https://ibb.co/278Ck0r)
Its a 41.
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Taylor and I got out this morning. It's 12:24 right now. Had to before the heat of the day. 1st time shooting without needing coats and gloves.
What a difference a month makes when you're having fun. Shot 5 targets total. Here they are.
.50 Beck by Taylor. .021" denim - almost all shot with LHV & 90gr. 2F Schutzen.
bottom left target, same power, but with spit and cut at the muzzle. The 4 at 3 o'clock
was the 5th shot, of course. It "felt" like it was with the rest. LOL Haven't shot this rifle for quite a while.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZhLLStt/May-2023-Postal.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sFmmCkk)
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Worked on the sights for awhile and then shot this target, .495 with 2f and .018 patch. A special thanks to the cloud of black flies, hope it ends soon!
(https://i.ibb.co/djztsYg/DSCN3128.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ydbpmjS)
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Good grouping, Ed. Wish I could do that with a flinter.
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Time to post a picture of my May effort (to date). I shot my Chambers' Virginia .60 cal. with 70 gr. FFg GOEX, .590" ball and .021" denim and water/Ballistol mix lube.
(https://i.ibb.co/1Q6WMC6/0-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wgsm7ns)
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(https://i.ibb.co/nrL7F7x/0518230600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tBJq9qV)
Good shooting Taylor.
I went out yesterday with my .40. I knew I had some issue with my single set trigger, but I had to shoot it to remember what it was. Also I am shooting high. I will correct the trigger and shoot it again before I make a sight correction. Getz barrel, .40, 50 grains OE, .395 ball, JoAnn's pocket drill.
This was the best target yesterday.
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Here’s a few Smoothbore targets:
.62 cal. Fusil de Chasse
.600 RB
.020 patch, spit lube, cut at the muzzle
~80 gr Goex 2F, 2F in the pan
(https://i.ibb.co/SX1ffMr/23-F6-C0-C5-0174-40-C2-B066-B115259739-EF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbfHHyV)
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Sorry for the intrusion fellas but how does one go about getting in on this?
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Welcome to the forum, Mike. Go to the first post. Read the rules, print some targets, shoot them, photograph them upload to your computer and submit the target(s)using the photo submission icon at the bottom of the reply box.
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Smokey, but otherwise perfect day at the range. Some wind, but straight in and ~17C. So, no excuses.
I was about to look for some after the first target, but then I shot probably the best group I've ever done offhand. This was while chatting to friends, having to wait for other people to put up targets, etc, so seemingly the trick is to get distracted as much as possible?
Most steady aim and trigger pull I've had ever.
Then I had my friend try out a muzzle loader for the first time and promptly put it in *my* target.
First target:
(https://i.imgur.com/V8ot9py.jpg)
Second target:
(https://i.imgur.com/RiE9cPU.jpg)
Almost hole-in-hole, but I think it's 2 x 10, 1x 9, 1x 8, 1x7, for a 44X.
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No X on this target. Very good shooting Jakob!
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Smokey, but otherwise perfect day at the range. Some wind, but straight in and ~17C. So, no excuses.
I was about to look for some after the first target, but then I shot probably the best group I've ever done offhand. This was while chatting to friends, having to wait for other people to put up targets, etc, so seemingly the trick is to get distracted as much as possible?
Most steady aim and trigger pull I've had ever.
Then I had my friend try out a muzzle loader for the first time and promptly put it in *my* target.
First target:
(https://i.imgur.com/V8ot9py.jpg)
Second target:
(https://i.imgur.com/RiE9cPU.jpg)
Almost hole-in-hole, but I think it's 2 x 10, 1x 9, 1x 8, 1x7, for a 44X.
If you can overlay the second target centered on an unfired one I would appreciate it. Great shooting.
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Like this?
(https://i.imgur.com/NiSXnTy.jpg)
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Some darn good targets and quite stiff competition this month. Permit me to add my meager effort to the May Frolic (below).
Particulars: I used my Waksupi-built .54cal. Isaac Haines (Chambers) today, but with a .535" RB cast from a Lee Precision mould. The patch was .011" "Sew Classics" twill (?) I got from Joanne Fabrics for my T/C smoothbore, but it has found other uses (LOL). Patch lube was 1 Ballistol : 6 water and patches were just shy of dripping. The powder was GOEX?Graf's FFg, 60gr. Btw, my practice target was one of the NMLRA copies, which is noticeably smaller than the May target, but it's one of the few times I got a 10-X on the former.
(https://i.ibb.co/kXCVkcV/IMG-6488.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bX9jqdj)
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Shot these four today, couldn't find the 10 ring for love nor money. 39 seems to be my number, at least there is that consistency. Will try again.
(https://i.ibb.co/0q1SNnJ/DSCN3129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XX6gBWJ)
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Shot these two this morning. Not liking the trigger on my schimmel, looks like I'm gonna have to work on it. On the other hand my Lehigh came through with I think a 43. I'll try and do better tomorrow. Hope everyone gets a chance to shoot, only a few days left.
(https://i.ibb.co/YXt3Jsm/DSCN3130.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RNC9twf)
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I got access to a printer and made the right targets. I feel bad about using a percussion rifle against everyone else shooting flint. I shot my self made Bedford county longrifle. .36 caliber, 42” Green Mountain barrel, 13/16” straight. .350 hand cast ball, 35 grains 3 F old eynesford. .020 denim, 5-1 balistol. Perfect light and wind conditions. I would have a hard time duplicating these two targets. I normally have a flyer in five shots.
(https://i.ibb.co/ch2X8Lw/0-D8075-F1-EAA2-41-E4-AA88-6815-E616-DD7-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fdrGNv9)
(https://i.ibb.co/85vp501/5-A292-A0-F-E526-434-E-9-E11-5-B2-A3-C765-B04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k8bf8xN)
https://ibb.co/fdrGNv9
https://ibb.co/k8bf8xN
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Shot from my .54 Lyman GPR that I've assembled from parts over the last 10 years or so. Looks like I've got a 37 or 38 depending on how you score the shot by the 9. Not my best shooting, but I thought I'd throw a target in here. I know I pulled the shots in the 5 and 6 rings off (I felt it just as the shot broke). My load is 85gr of my home made BP, .022 patch lubed with 5:1 water/ballistol, .530 RB. If the weather cooperates, I may get to try again tomorrow.
(https://i.ibb.co/0B6SDg1/2023-05-28-17-03-39-445.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VHzZj7b)
(https://i.ibb.co/Nxk19DP/2023-05-28-17-03-49-293.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tBNZqjt)
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Fine shooting Okabow.
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(https://i.ibb.co/hWP7hkz/IMG-8437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J7fB0NJ)
I am submitting this target for May - shot offhand, near dark, bad eyes, loud audience - you get the idea
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Nice shooting guys. Looks like a 46 and a 48 or 49 to me, Okabow.
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Fine shooting!
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I just re read Dans post about this match and saw that the distance is supposed to be 25 yards. I shot my targets at 20 yards like the target shows. I withdraw my entry. I’ll try again next month.
Chuck
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Dang it Okabow your 48 was, the best but rules are rules I guess. Great shooting.
With this in mind at this time 7:32 MST on the 31st of May Jakob is in the lead with a 46. Unless I missed something.
Good shooting guys.
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Way to go, Jacob - nice!!
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Good shooting Jakob, Congratulations.
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Dang, I was expecting Okawbow to win, so this is a nice surprise.
I do have a slightly evil idea for a new target. Hope to get it up tonight.
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Ah, a clever and fiendish act of mischief and debauchery! ;D
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Sounds painful! Oh well, we will have to caulk it up to fun whatever Jakob has in mind.
J.B.