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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: monro1066 on June 12, 2023, 05:37:38 AM
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Do any collectors on here have a P.Peloux Ky /Pistol/Full stock/ half stock .
Images of my half stock coming later .
PELOUX Peter— Phila., Pa. Listed as gunsmith in Philadelphia Di rectory in 1816, back of 190 Cedar St., as Peter Palaix. In 1819 and 1829 he is listed as Peter Peloux. His name "Peloux," obliterated, is marked on locks of a pair of "Roman candle 3-shot?" or Chambers system?" type of flintlock pistols with external main springs.
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My knowledge of Peter Pelaux is limited to his building of a three band flintlock musket in 1812, under the supervision of Marine T. Wickham, for the Commissary General Calender Irvine. The Pelaux/Wickham musket was shipped to Washington where it is was examined by Irvine and Ordnance officers. This particular flintlock musket prototype was approved, with necessary changes, and lead to the development of the U.S. 1812 Standard Pattern Flintlock Musket.
I detail all of this in pages 42 and 43 of my book on Springfield Armory flintlock muskets. ***
Sorry that I do not have any further info on Pelaux.
*** This sentence was added by my Shameless Marketing Division. ;D
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Monro I'd like to see more of your piece. Looks like it may be quite fine!
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Hi Westbury ....thankyou ....that information is interesting.The halfstock I am caretaker of is about as fine
as Ive seen......every opportunity is used to show the skill of the maker .
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Nice rifle. It looks to be a quality firearm.
It is interesting that the butt has a sling swivel. Is there one on the forend?
Thanks for posting the pictures.
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Hi Westbury .I will do some outside daylight pics in next few days....(so viewers can get an overall feel ) just been ugly weather for photography outside
atm.
I really like this halfstock......its a refined gunsmath that made this.
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How is it marked? Refined high quality rifle. More details please.
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Just found this text below from an Auction house listing some years ago:
One of of the two is photographed and featured as number 145 on pages 298-299 of "Historic Pistols" by Samuel E. Smith and Edwin W. Bitter. The book states that these three-shot pistols were made between 1815 and 1820 by Peter Peloux of Philadelphia. It is believed that they are the only two in existence that use the Chambers system for multiple fire in flintlocks. Speculation is that the pistols were loaded with three powder charges and three balls with holes drilled through them to ignite the next charge. The action, which is quite a distance from the breech, ignited the closest charge which then ignited the charge behind it, much like a Roman Candle. On March 23rd, 1813, Joseph G. Chambers of Pennsylvania was granted a US Patent for a system of "repeating gunnery." In February 1814, the US Navy contracted with George Tryon and John Joseph Henry for 20 repeating swivels and 200 repeating muskets. Peter Peloux was a gunsmith who had been working under M.T. Wickham at the US Arsenal on the Schuylkill in Philadelphia between 1812 and 1815. After the War of 1812, Peloux had his own shop at 190 Cedar Street in Philadelphia and was listed in city directories between 1816 and 1829. Several conventional flintlock rifles by Peloux are known. He later became the superintendent at the Krider Gun Factory. Peloux would have had a knowledge of the Chambers system and the ability to make the multi-shot system. The pair was possible made for trial, experimental purposes, or as a sample. The barrels are round, one is marked with British ordnance proofs at the breech, the other is unmarked. Both have their original iron ramrods. The intricate locks are stamped "PELOUX/PHILA"
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Hi Shreckmeister
Lockplate marked (stamped ?)
Peloux
Phila
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Whoever did that design for a pistol was smoking something we don't have today ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Bob Roller