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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: altankhan on June 17, 2023, 01:03:38 AM

Title: British fowler?
Post by: altankhan on June 17, 2023, 01:03:38 AM

Picked this up at recent Old Barn auction in Ohio. 38 1/4" barrel, 5 1/2" lockplate, 2 inch wide buttplate, about 12 ga.  The name on the lock plate appears to be Tayler and Mander.  There is a flintlock pistol with that name on the Collector's Firearms archive site.  I am wondering if anyone knows anything about the names, company, dates, etc.?  and who this might have been marketed to.  I am thinking c. 1800.  The piece has seen a lot of honest hunting wear as the muzzle is quite worn and the rear ramrod pipe has gone missing.

I appreciate the informative posts and info on British fowlers.  I am adding photos of the details, which I hope will speak for themselves.
(https://i.ibb.co/cTq7M8V/IMG-2624-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DKdSsMT)

(https://i.ibb.co/16fXtjM/IMG-2626-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JQRpwgq)

(https://i.ibb.co/hK8z721/IMG-2628-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/THh3vPq)

(https://i.ibb.co/74YpmtM/IMG-2623-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TLv03Mj)

(https://i.ibb.co/2h9Jr9s/IMG-2630-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6wMQSM1)



(https://i.ibb.co/fGb2vMb/IMG-2632-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5xd6FTd)

(https://i.ibb.co/2KMQ6P2/IMG-2639-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NYNP3ph)

(https://i.ibb.co/R3Rxz7M/IMG-2622-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m9fL6SY)

2pac rose poem (https://poetandpoem.com/analysis-of-the-rose-that-grew-from-concrete-by-tupac-shakur)

(https://i.ibb.co/sKK8zFw/IMG-2633-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YccHwtk)

(https://i.ibb.co/C0kpS5C/IMG-2637-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yswmxnv)

(https://i.ibb.co/FDZLsDs/IMG-2642-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RDrkhDh)

Title: Re: British fowler?
Post by: JV Puleo on June 17, 2023, 03:30:26 AM

Export grade fowler made in or before 1804.

Title: Re: British fowler?
Post by: altankhan on June 17, 2023, 04:24:37 AM

Thanks very much for the reply.  I am still wondering about info on Tayler and Mander.

Title: Re: British fowler?
Post by: WESTbury on June 17, 2023, 04:50:56 AM

Nice Fowler.

Fortunately, nobody has erased its history by reconverting it to flint etc,etc.

Title: Re: British fowler?
Post by: mr. no gold on June 17, 2023, 09:38:23 AM

Nice piece, one well worth having. Thank you for bringing her in for us to admire. There sure is a strong resemblance to the Chief's grade English trade gun for the Indians. Have to wonder if these folks participated in providing such, for the tribes? Thanks again for the view of the nine fowler.
Dick

Title: Re: British fowler?
Post by: altankhan on June 17, 2023, 02:55:36 PM

Thank you for the info on Taylor and Mander.  Thanks for all the other comments. 

Some additional measurements:  octagon section of barrel is a bit over 14" in length; barrel width at breech is 1 1/8" or so