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Title: Nice Collection
Post by: Avlrc on August 24, 2023, 09:07:05 PM

Longrifles start lot 436 on page 257

https://issuu.com/mtjstevenson/docs/23s?fr=sNTY4YjYzNjgxOTg

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: JTR on August 24, 2023, 11:58:13 PM

Thanks for posting!
I could sell my house and still not have enough bucks to buy everything I like there!
John

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Avlrc on August 25, 2023, 03:50:16 AM

Quote from: JTR on August 24, 2023, 11:58:13 PM

Thanks for posting!
I could sell my house and still not have enough bucks to buy everything I like there!
John

You sound like me. :)

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Mattox Forge on August 25, 2023, 05:07:31 AM

This contemporary is very realistically aged.
(https://i.ibb.co/mX4XymN/Screenshot-20230824-220403-Firefox.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQkQdbX)
Mike

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Buck on August 26, 2023, 03:21:41 PM

John,

Look at the late Anstadt rifle with the "Indian Head". It's a Sirkin Rifle.

Buck

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: JTR on August 26, 2023, 06:07:05 PM

Quote from: Buck on August 26, 2023, 03:21:41 PM

John,

Look at the late Anstadt rifle with the "Indian Head". It's a Sirkin Rifle.

Buck

That's true, it says as much. So do you know some secret info on this one?
I know Sirkin got screwed over by a bunch of guys that really stuck it to him...... And the aftermath is still being felt today.....

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Buck on August 27, 2023, 12:55:44 AM

John,

No, other than I would be suspect of it. I’ve never claimed to be an expert, I’d guess that the rifle is a late Anstadt. Has all of the hallmarks of the family style, architecture, engraving etc. I find the Indian Head suspect, maybe Dave or Eric has seen one in the past but that detail and the good Doctors name are a closer for me - doesn’t look right.

Buck

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: JTR on August 27, 2023, 01:12:25 AM

Oh yes, anything with his name attached should be looked at with a very sharp eye.
I felt bad for the guy getting bent over like he did.
John

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Buck on August 27, 2023, 04:39:44 AM

John,

I agree, he was taken advantage of. Unfortunately a common occurrence, it really left the collecting fraternity in a bad light and ruined the market.

Buck

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: DaveM on August 27, 2023, 06:41:53 PM

I saw that gun also, to me t looks like a legit Angstadt gun from the photos. That symmetrical style style patchbox head was one of the two variations that they seem to have used.

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Buck on August 27, 2023, 11:09:05 PM

Dave,

What about the Indian Head? To my recollection I’ve never seen that detail on an Anstadt.

Buck

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: Fullstock longrifle on August 28, 2023, 02:35:25 AM

Quote from: JTR on August 26, 2023, 06:07:05 PM

Quote from: Buck on August 26, 2023, 03:21:41 PM

John,

Look at the late Anstadt rifle with the "Indian Head". It's a Sirkin Rifle.

Buck

That's true, it says as much. So do you know some secret info on this one?
I know Sirkin got screwed over by a bunch of guys that really stuck it to him...... And the aftermath is still being felt today.....

Only one guy screwed him over John, and he was supposed to be his best friend. Go figure.

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: DaveM on August 28, 2023, 03:04:40 AM

Buck, you have a good point about the indian head. You are correct, I have not seen seen that on an Angstadt either. Also I can’t speak to the originality / condition of the gun, only that the style and patchbox seems legit overall.

Title: Re: Nice Collection
Post by: JTR on August 28, 2023, 04:25:43 AM

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Only one guy screwed him over John, and he was supposed to be his best friend. Go figure.

Well Frank you'd know more about this than I, so I'll stand corrected.
John