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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: 5judge on September 30, 2023, 03:10:34 AM

Title: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: 5judge on September 30, 2023, 03:10:34 AM
A friend of mine just acquired this nifty little .36ish caliber Indiana / Ohio rifle. Interesting that the lock is  repurposed from a U.S. M.1819 pistol. On a plate atop the barrel is the name "O.F. Helfferich". Should that be the maker, does the name ring a bell with anyone? Thanks!
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Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: 5judge on September 30, 2023, 03:20:38 AM
P.S. I recognize, being from Indiana myself, I'm being presumptuous concluding this is, in fact, a rifle of Indiana or Ohio origins.
Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: Avlrc on September 30, 2023, 03:36:34 AM
Otto Helfricht ,Saginaw Michichan.  May have changed his spelling ,  could be a German Immigrant. Guessing of course.
Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: Avlrc on September 30, 2023, 06:52:56 AM
There was a O F Helfferich , ship carpenter in the 1857-1858 Detroit Michigan city directory. 
Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: Tanselman on September 30, 2023, 07:20:01 AM
The single trigger, scrolled guard, and shorted forestock grip area all look correct for a Michigan rifle... many of which were influenced by New York rifle styles. A number of New York gunsmiths moved to Michigan in the mid-1800s [perhaps same latitude when moving west?] and influenced the local gunsmithing trade there.

Shelby Gallien
Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: Bob Roller on September 30, 2023, 09:22:33 PM
Good looking old halfstock no matter who made it.I have made a few very similar but that was over 50 years ago. :(
Bob Roller
Title: Re: O.F. Helfferich
Post by: 5judge on September 30, 2023, 10:41:06 PM
Good on you! Any you might illustrate and describe?