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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: moodyholler on October 01, 2023, 08:42:23 PM

Title: Flintlock smoothbore
Post by: moodyholler on October 01, 2023, 08:42:23 PM
Any help appreciated, thanks

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Title: Re: Flintlock smoothbore
Post by: Mattox Forge on October 02, 2023, 12:45:02 AM
Do you have an overall photo of the gun? The proofs look like they might be post 1855 London commercial proofs showing the gauge, presumably 17 bore.
Barnett was in business for over 100 years at the Minories.
(https://i.ibb.co/R9Y5bxp/Barnett-reference-British-Gunmakers-London.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nb6WmHs)
Some sort of Volunteer New Land Pattern Sergeants Musket possibly?
Mike
Title: Re: Flintlock smoothbore
Post by: moodyholler on October 02, 2023, 01:07:14 AM
I'll see it next weekend. Sorry no overall.
Title: Re: Flintlock smoothbore
Post by: Clark Badgett on October 02, 2023, 01:12:19 AM
It screams 1850s, but unless the cypher is a fake it would have to be prior to 1830. There were lots of odd ball muskets in use before the percussion system took over. With that 17 stamped on there its a .66ish bore. Let us know if it ends up being a carbine.
Title: Re: Flintlock smoothbore
Post by: JV Puleo on October 03, 2023, 03:26:15 AM
The cypher is as meaningless as the marking Tower". This was conventional for inexpensive export guns and I suspect this is one, probably intended for the African trade or another of the far-flung outposts of the empire. No one was encouraging native populations to have the latest technology and in most cases they preferred flintlocks since the supply of caps was tenuous at best,