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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Adrie luke on November 01, 2023, 05:24:04 PM
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Hello
A while ago I had a question about a Snaphaunce lock.
I couldn't understand something, but with the help of the members I can see how a double sear works.
I also sent the question to Lot Art, she sent a photo with a full cock Snaphaunce,
how beautiful is that, nice people who want to help you.
Now I have started with a Snaphaunce lock.
Here are some photos, more later.
And thanks again for the help.
Adrie
(https://i.ibb.co/5kLJLxt/IMG-0254.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sCqXqJk)
(https://i.ibb.co/LRP3FyM/IMG-0255.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dMcRTvS)
(https://i.ibb.co/D89cYxX/IMG-0258.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yY6vpwT)
(https://i.ibb.co/N71CQvP/IMG-0262.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yVhPG91)
(https://i.ibb.co/Gsd5Kqw/IMG-0265.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vscj7S5)
(https://i.ibb.co/BT24tKD/IMG-0266.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L9dQ8hw)
(https://i.ibb.co/bPqCKDQ/IMG-0267.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2ymCkHW)
(https://i.ibb.co/DLzSVL2/IMG-0276.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N7tHV7B)
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Wow wow wow!
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Add another WOW. ;D
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Beautiful work, as always, Adrie.
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Hi
I'm sending the photos to give myself a push to continue.
It remains difficult to make a lock from a photo example.
This one requires a lot of thinking.
But when it's finished I'll definitely show it.
Greetings Adrie
(https://i.ibb.co/Jc8Jg4L/IMG-0283.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3TVZQqX)
(https://i.ibb.co/mSLJsQH/IMG-0284.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7bwvc7G)
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Really super work , the talent on this Forum is amazing , now that Im nearing the end my Kibler SMR I having second thoughts on posting photos .
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J.M.
Advice and comments from someone else is the best teacher.
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It is so cool what you are doing here. Fabulous craftsmanship to boot. Thank you for taking the time to share what your steps for fabrication are. It helps to push me further down the road of project completion seeing your progress. Keep up the good work.
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More pictures
Almost finished.
(https://i.ibb.co/cXczv7Q/IMG-0303.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VpWXNPT)
(https://i.ibb.co/j4MPRRT/IMG-0300.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PChvQQN)
(https://i.ibb.co/JdBhg3n/IMG-0304.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TTvCdWc)
(https://i.ibb.co/jvmfSrY/IMG-0310.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gvypq5D)
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Fantastic work sir. Do you do use all hand tools to make these, save a drill press? I don’t see any milling marks. This would be encouraging as I’d like to make some locks for myself.
Are you just an experienced fellow or did you use references for this lock? I assume you’re experienced, I’m just interested in any knowledge you could pass on. I’m particularly interested in wheellocks.
Thanks, Ryan
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Cotton
I use a grinder and files and a lathe most often
https://strzelecka.net/obrazki/Wheellock_Plans.pdf
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Does the hammer have the correct angle to throw the frizzen open? Have you tried it yet?
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(https://i.ibb.co/d0py4TG/H2672-L157698471.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QFHGvgr)
I think so
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Cotton
I use a grinder and files and a lathe most often
https://strzelecka.net/obrazki/Wheellock_Plans.pdf
Wow, thanks for the link man!
Good luck on your project, it will be a jewel.
-Ryan
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I admire anybody who tackles a project like this and sees it through to completion. Hope it works like a charm!
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Adrie,
Beautiful work!
Is this a copy of a late Italian lock?
Just wondering as it has the vertical sear..
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Pukka
I found three types of sears, one that pushes backwards, the double sear and the regular one
that I made.
This choice is that it is a bit simpler, but if you mention it, I would have gone for the double one, which I think might be more interesting
next time.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SgCbTV/download.png) (https://ibb.co/Mg8S9jp)
(https://i.ibb.co/JsVVR1g/102148-4-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RDffpFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/Mh1c81F/H2672-L331441526-original.jpg) (https://ibb.co/th2qZ2V)
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Hello
Here the parts, now only a little engraving and hardening the frizzen with Casanit and the flintstone.
(https://i.ibb.co/VQ5fv8M/IMG-0318.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0FvHf3Y)
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Excellent work and demo. Should be a tutorial.
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Adrie,
Have you ever kept a log book on the time it takes to make this type of lock?
These locks have details I never tried to copy. Most of my locks were those
that were used at the end of the muzzle loaders common use,
Bob Roller.
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hello
Today I finished the snaphaunce lock.
It took a lot of effort and the main spring was made a little stronger, but it sparked
and then it worked again, it was not easy.
(https://i.ibb.co/9TkDhpf/IMG-0344.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wWFk7db)
(https://i.ibb.co/KLVT7jN/IMG-0337.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RBQRPph)
(https://i.ibb.co/1bf6gR9/IMG-0339.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R7pyFQC)
(https://i.ibb.co/PYhhR5x/IMG-0342.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wLWWTKy)
(https://i.ibb.co/7YhWBxk/IMG-1799.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JBZ78W3)
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Absolutely FIRST CLASS in all respects. It is a joy to look at your workmanship.
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It is amazing to see the high level of skill among members of this forum. Your lock is an exemplary example. Fantastic work!!!!
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Well done Adrie. A work of art for sure. Now, do you have a gun in mind for using this on?
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Bravo!
CheersRichard
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Beautiful!! First class work.
Best regards
Rolf
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Awesome!
Jeff
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Beyond impressive ! Thanks for taking the time to show this project's development. Fred
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Lovely work, Adrie!!
You did not make life any easier for yourself by making such small version!
Much harder to do than a full sized lock.
First rate work!
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Hi,
I spent over 2 days trying to make the lid of the pan fit. First I made a spring, but when it was attached it turned out to be too narrow and the lid did not open completely.
I then made a wider spring, with a bevel at the front with a shorter stroke at the top and a longer stroke at the bottom. The small spring does the last bit and secures the lid. [See drawing].
I turned the flint over so it sparks better.
Maybe another time a different angle or a slightly higher cock.
What you asked me Clowdis.
(https://i.ibb.co/2kh0DCr/IMG-0375.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0G2pg6L)
How it works
(https://i.ibb.co/qpxS969/IMG-0369.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqtfQ7Q)
(https://i.ibb.co/LC6S58C/IMG-0370.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rZMksmZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/tbmv7Cc/IMG-0371.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YtR1zj8)
(https://i.ibb.co/hCkZBhg/IMG-0372.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wYTwS3d)
(https://i.ibb.co/qpxS969/IMG-0369.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqtfQ7Q)
Thanks for your support
Adrie
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https://www.czernys.com/a-137/?c=279
Adrie, If you have'nt found this yet, some nice firearms and locks and stuff. Maybe even possible to bid on those locks then you would have a nice example to study. Its a pity they dont have any flintlocks.
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J.H
Thanks for your link I will save it.
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i am amazed :) great work.
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Howdy folks!
I can't see the pics in this thread. Could this be a setting on my end or did the age out?
Phil C
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Beyond fine IMHO.I have never thought of one of these locks.Too late now ;D.WELL DONE and thank you for showing this little lock.
Bob Roller
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Howdy folks!
I can't see the pics in this thread. Could this be a setting on my end or did the age out?
Phil C
I can see them now.
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That's fascinating. I know nothing of the time period these were invented but they appear to either be the pre-curser to the "flintlock" lock, or an attempt to make the flintlock better.
Do you know if these were before, during, or after the flintlock lock was invented?
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Steeltrap
I hope you find the answer here
https://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2012-B105-A-Note-on-Flint-locks-and-the-Flintlock.pdf
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Thanks! Great read!!
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So, those locks are close to a traditional flintlock lock. Would you think it’s possible to modify a flintlock lock to a snaphaunce lock, or would that be more trouble than it’s worth?