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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: backsplash75 on November 12, 2023, 01:36:19 AM

Title: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: backsplash75 on November 12, 2023, 01:36:19 AM
https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28645/lot/2054/rare-relief-carved-jp-beck-signed-pennsylvania-long-rifle-constructed-with-sling-swivels/ (https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28645/lot/2054/rare-relief-carved-jp-beck-signed-pennsylvania-long-rifle-constructed-with-sling-swivels/)

(https://images2.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2023-11/06/188960-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: VP on November 12, 2023, 02:43:29 AM
Thanks for sharing, a beautiful rifle.

VP
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Jdbeck on November 12, 2023, 05:03:38 AM
Thanks for sharing, a beautiful rifle.

VP

Right? That’s a BEAUT!  All these guns coming up for sale—interesting times. Only wish I had a stack of Benjamin’s laying around 🤣
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Jdbeck on December 04, 2023, 06:54:45 AM
Only $25,000

Prices definitely going down…😉 at this rate I’ll be getting a nice one in another year!
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: JTR on December 04, 2023, 07:55:51 AM
That one sold well under. Hammer price was $22,000. Estimate was 30 to 50K.
A couple others sold well over. Overall, I'd think prices were down.

I wonder about it being an internet only auction, with no auctioneer to pump up the crowd?

 
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Jdbeck on December 04, 2023, 08:20:27 AM
That one sold well under. Hammer price was $22,000. Estimate was 30 to 50K.
A couple others sold well over. Overall, I'd think prices were down.

I wonder about it being an internet only auction, with no auctioneer to pump up the crowd?

Yeah definitely a great buy, it has great provenance, and the rare INRI inscription. Someone got a deal!
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: 120RIR on December 04, 2023, 06:21:08 PM
Holy cow...had I known it would go so low I might have done a foolish (but fun) thing and maxed out that zero-percent credit card I have!  I had the pleasure of seeing this rifle in person and what a gem.  Someone did indeed get the bargain of the year as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Avlrc on December 04, 2023, 06:43:24 PM
What a deal.  Somebody got a Great rifle at an excellent rifle price.
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Jdbeck on December 04, 2023, 10:53:02 PM
What a deal.  Somebody got a Great rifle at an excellent rifle price.

Yeah I didn’t follow it because after the Horst auction I expected this one to go much higher!

I would of maxed out my credit card also🤣🤣👍🏻
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Shreckmeister on December 06, 2023, 02:20:11 AM
Disappointing results for the owner. Hard to figure why this didn’t bring in the estimated value
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: JTR on December 06, 2023, 03:03:50 AM
I certainly don't know. I've seen that gun a number of times and it's a fine piece.
About the one and only stickler it has is that at some point, no doubt in its years of use, someone filed a rear sight dovetail into the barrel, right through the letters Be of the name Beck. They show a picture of that on the auction site, and they should show that, although the gun is undoubtedly a JP Beck.
Strange too, is that some of the other items sold for well above estimate, like the Abner Howe musket, with a replaced lock. And the lock, a replacement that some could argue is not the correct style. None the less, it went for well above the high estimate.

I watched the auction, but didn't add up the winners and the losers. I know though, that if I was going to sell, I don't think I would use an on-line only venue like that....
John   
Title: Re: Bonhams skinner JP Beck
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on December 06, 2023, 03:09:26 AM
The wood box on a signed Beck, despite being quite interesting and perhaps a net positive to we geeks, is a negative to general collectors who want to see a classic brass box.