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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: lexington1 on November 25, 2023, 05:16:56 AM

Title: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: lexington1 on November 25, 2023, 05:16:56 AM


I know this is probably a long shot, but can anyone here put a TRS wheelock parts set together? I have a complete set of castings, but just need to find a builder.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Daryl on November 25, 2023, 05:35:39 AM
Do the parts look like this?

(https://i.ibb.co/LxzXsCn/Dag-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WkW4Rcg)
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: lexington1 on November 25, 2023, 05:39:07 AM
No, it is TRS 623, Early Germanic pistol.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: alacran on November 25, 2023, 02:57:35 PM
Daryl, nothing from the Rifle Shoppe resembles anything as nice as those parts you show.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Bob Roller on November 25, 2023, 07:00:52 PM
Deutsche Radschloss.I have never examined one of these locks but can see why they are costly.
Good luck with finding a builder,
Bob Roller
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Scota4570 on November 25, 2023, 08:27:27 PM
Choose carefully.  Experience is needed.  There is a lot more to it than assembling.  You have a bunch of parts that are still rough cast.  Simply assembling them based on the indicated screw holes will not likely produce a functional lock. 
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Daryl on November 25, 2023, 09:27:46 PM
The lock I posted, is the only wheel lock, lock I have seen. Brother Taylor built it himself including the tumbler winding chain. It was not built from someone's castings as far as I know.
Taylor listed the gun as a 17 Century Dag.

(https://i.ibb.co/dm0ZNzd/Dag-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5KWZQfN)
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Bob Gerard on November 25, 2023, 09:31:12 PM
My goodness that’s a stunning pistol
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: JH Ehlers on November 25, 2023, 10:22:12 PM
Very beautiful pistol Daryl, please tell your brother to build more 17th century stuff.
I always look at ads like this and think, do you want it slapped together for a little bit of money or put together like a swiss watch(like it should be) for a lot of money. If I was able to do such things I would charge more than anybody would be happy with. Would probably be cheaper to buy an antique at an auction. I think its going to be hard to find someone to do this, good luck.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on November 26, 2023, 12:25:03 AM
I built that wheellock for a commission by a friend.  The lock took me a month of 12 and 14 hour days when I was a lot younger, stronger, and more motivated.  My friend was happy to pay my asking price of $5000, recognizing the nature of this build.  I used hammer, chisel, saw and file to make the lock - no castings.  I made all of the screws on a little hobby lathe my father made for me.  Wheellock screws historically have a taller domed head than modern machine screws.
And for the record, I am not interested in building another one.
The stock on this pistol is ebony, and I did some wire inlay in fine silver for accent.   Plunging inlay chisels into ebony is...challenging.
Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: smylee grouch on November 26, 2023, 12:25:25 AM
It might be easier to find an assembler if you post an add in the ALR classifieds along with a price range.  Or call Cabin Creek.
Title: Re: Looking for TRS wheellock castings assembler.
Post by: Bob Roller on November 26, 2023, 04:30:42 PM
Looks like a do it yourself nervous breakdown kit to me.Common locks are not hard and the best English locks are more labor intensive.
That blue pistol is a masterpiece and will be around much longer that the money it sold for.
Bob Roller