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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Smilax on December 26, 2023, 06:28:28 PM

Title: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Smilax on December 26, 2023, 06:28:28 PM
First time posting, but I've been a follower of this forum for a long time. This project is my first attempt at a muzzleloader kit I picked up as a graduation present to myself after finishing up my master's and I doubt it'll be my last. It took me 5 months to finish it in evenings after the kids went down, but I really had a great time building it and the quality of product that Jim and his folks produce is fantastic. It's a Kibler Colonial smoothbore in .58. I Wanted the added utility of using shot for small game on top of round ball for deer - as much to extend how many days I can get it in the field as anything. I took advantage of a sale he was running to justify a wood upgrade, so this is the Fancy maple finished with a few coats of iron nitrate and permaline sealer. All the steel parts have been rust blued - the barrel took the most effort with my semi-janky setup, but I think it came out great in the end. Compared to the phenomenal craftsmanship and adornments I see on this forum, its pretty plain but it came out exactly as I was hoping for and will certainly be well used. Thanks to everyone on here for the inspiration and tips I gleaned along the way.


(https://i.ibb.co/K7QPb50/IMG-3473.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2b1mcB)

(https://i.ibb.co/JR1kMjV/IMG-3471.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ZqN5Rz)

(https://i.ibb.co/Ykd5kr9/IMG-3472.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yykzy3T)

(https://i.ibb.co/gJLYbv7/IMG-3474.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQHdPGb)

(https://i.ibb.co/M9BfHYW/IMG-3475.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rvd3hCT)
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: smylee grouch on December 26, 2023, 06:46:55 PM
Welcome to the party. It looks as though you started out on the right foot. Enjoy.  ;) :)
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Kurt on December 26, 2023, 07:37:32 PM
That is a very nice smoothbore you have built. I am anxious to hear how it shoots as I have been thinking about something similar but am wary of smoothbore accuracy and my impression that smoothbores require heavy powder charges to obtain accuracy. Your experience will be nice to hear. Thanks.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Smilax on December 26, 2023, 10:07:18 PM
Kurt, I was very pleased with its accuracy. The photo below is 80 gr 2F Swiss, .570 rb and .015 patch at 50 yds. Started at 60gr and worked my way up but honestly could have gone with any load in between - very similar accuracy overall. Put another 2 into that black dot after I took this photo too, very repeatable.
(https://i.ibb.co/sWqkVN6/IMG-3417.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hYVhm4Z)
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Jim Kibler on December 26, 2023, 10:13:40 PM
A very appealing rifle and good shooting.  Love the color and finish.  Well done!

Jim
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Kurt on December 27, 2023, 01:16:05 AM
Yes, indeed that is better accuracy than I do with a rifle, and only 80 grains. Disproves my impression of smoothbore certainly. Thank you.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: aaronc on December 27, 2023, 01:39:35 AM
That is beautiful, well done. I didn't know smooth bores were capable of that accuracy either.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: gunmaker on December 27, 2023, 07:35:43 AM
Wonder what it weighs ?  Great minds think alike. I have one too.  Excellent work love that color. Not Kibler, home made.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: alacran on December 27, 2023, 04:18:04 PM
That is beautiful, well done. I didn't know smooth bores were capable of that accuracy either.
Put a rear sight on a smoothbore, like this one sports and they are very accurate.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Smilax on December 27, 2023, 10:13:28 PM
It comes in at 8.75 lbs, not bad at all to carry around the woods.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Daryl on December 28, 2023, 04:28:18 AM
"Smooth Rifles"  (smoothbore with sights) with barrels 36" to 48" were oft times ordered from makers in the Eastern States, by the stores on the frontier.
documentation of re-printed actual gun orders noted in "Firearms of the American West".
EVERYONE should have these books. Mine came from my Bro for Christmas and Birthday presents.
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: Don on December 28, 2023, 04:27:32 PM
Nice.  Like how the grain and figure show up in that light. 8)
Title: Re: Kibler Colonial .58 Smoothbore
Post by: JeffG on December 28, 2023, 10:17:18 PM
That's a fine looking gun! Welcome!