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Title: Lock Maker question
Post by: wvmtnman on December 30, 2009, 01:42:39 AM

While at a mini NMLRA show in West WV a few weeks ago I met a lock maker that I was not familiar with.  His name is John Eder.  He makes an English style lock with a "waterproof pan".  Anyone ever hear of them or use them?  I believe that this is his only style lock.
                                                                Brian

Title: Re: Lock Maker question
Post by: Dave B on December 30, 2009, 09:28:39 AM

I see a John Eder with a company by the name of Flintlocks Inc. at
6929 Beech Tree Rd
Nineveh, IN  46164-9308
Phone:    (317) 933-3441

Is this your guy?

I have never heard of him or seen any of his stuff any body got any pictures of his work?

Title: Re: Lock Maker question
Post by: bs2 on December 30, 2009, 05:51:10 PM

John Eder
           Flintlocks Inc.
           6929 Beech Tree Road
           Ninevah, IN 46164
           Phone 317-933-3441
           E-mail flintlocks@skyenet.net

Title: Re: Lock Maker question
Post by: wvmtnman on December 30, 2009, 06:53:59 PM

That is the guy.  I was wondering if anyone has ever used any of his locks.  I looked at one while at the show.  I am thinking about using one on my future Sheetz rifle.  The lock sort of looks like a Manton.  The parts are cast.  I believe the locks are in the $175 range. The lock is advertised as "the only truely waterproof pan".  He also had some hard to find items like odd caliber balls and ramrod tips for 1/4 rods. 

Title: Re: Lock Maker question
Post by: Blackpowder Barbie on December 31, 2009, 01:32:13 AM

They've been in business for a long time selling parts, pieces, and lots of shotgun supplies.  They have the very 1st corner booth at Friendship every year.  John, his wife, and his son Mike all take turns running it.  Mike also sits on the NMLRA's Board of directors with me.  Bunch of nice folks there!  As for the locks though, I can't say as I've ever even looked at one.  The company is a reputable one though so take a chance and let us all know how it goes.

Title: Re: Lock Maker question
Post by: Larry Pletcher on December 31, 2009, 08:21:09 AM

I bought a used rifle at Conner Prairie years ago that had one of these locks.  I had trouble with sparking and had the frizzen rehardened by the gunsmith  shop at Friendship.  Since then I have had no trouble.  (I don't know if it was soft or if I went through the case hardening.)  In any case it has been no trouble since.

There is a high speed video that contains that lock at the following link:
http://www.blackpowdermag.com/featured-articles/more-high-speed-video-from-friendship.php (http://www.blackpowdermag.com/featured-articles/more-high-speed-video-from-friendship.php)

The 3rd youtube video down the page is called "The Kanger group".  The Eider lock is the last one in that group.  BTW the first lock in that group is a Bob Roller lock.  Numerous other locks including an original Manton and a wheel lock are scattered among the other videos.  Worth a look.

Regards,
Pletch