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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: rich pierce on September 11, 2024, 01:52:28 AM

Title: Big early continental lock
Post by: rich pierce on September 11, 2024, 01:52:28 AM
I bought this early Continental lock. It’s very like an early Dutch lock a friend owned a dozen years ago except for the shape of the frizzen. His lock had a wider frizzen. Looked like a tulip. This lock like that one is big and heavy duty. Guessing 1690-1720.
(https://i.ibb.co/c6WtCRT/IMG-2949.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6HKb1Gs)

(https://i.ibb.co/mFw6qWn/IMG-2950.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hpsnz8c)

(https://i.ibb.co/XpyCzTk/IMG-2951.jpg) (https://ibb.co/82z7jV4)
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on September 11, 2024, 02:11:30 PM
I had to do a double take - I've got one that looks just like it, but with the wider frizzen face. 

That's one heck of a sear spring there!
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Feltwad on September 11, 2024, 04:11:27 PM
 I would say that your lock has  come off  a large bore say a 4 bore  wild fowling gun  , I have just restored one which went out of the work shop  3 weeks ago with  the same size lock , no bridle and a banana shape round face lock plate ,46 inch iron barrel which was  foreign made  but that was common  for English built large bore guns of that period
Feltwad
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: rich pierce on September 11, 2024, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: Feltwad on September 11, 2024, 04:11:27 PM
I would say that your lock has  come off  a large bore say a 4 bore  wild fowling gun  , I have just restored one which went out of the work shop  3 weeks ago with  the same size lock , no bridle and a banana shape round face lock plate ,46 inch iron barrel which was  foreign made  but that was common  for English built large bore guns of that period
Feltwad
Something big for sure!
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Telgan on September 11, 2024, 04:21:47 PM
Nice find and grab Rich
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: WKevinD on September 11, 2024, 08:04:49 PM
I picked a lock up this summer that is very similar. I love these big early roundfaced locks!

Kevin

(https://i.ibb.co/wWGdZwg/Early-lock1a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/85vmnds)
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Feltwad on September 11, 2024, 11:46:28 PM
To me the difference is that your lock  is a repro to the one at the beginning of the thread   no offence
Feltwad
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: smart dog on September 12, 2024, 12:57:07 AM
Hi Rich,
Nice early lock!  I love the placement of the rear lock bolt hole!!  Here are two original continental locks that my Braintree Hill shop will be working on.   
(https://i.ibb.co/mthzsDt/big-Dutch-or-Gernam-locks-1.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

They are probably from mid-18th century and likely Dutch or German.  The smaller one is for Allen Martin and will be used on one of his guns.  The other is for Ken Gahagan and is also destined for a gun.

 (https://i.ibb.co/Fx6htKB/big-Dutch-or-Gernam-locks-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M2ngLsR)

(https://i.ibb.co/kBSWtGN/big-Dutch-or-Gernam-locks-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mTcM3Rf)

(https://i.ibb.co/j5BjvPx/big-Dutch-or-Gernam-locks-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fSBTYzK)

(https://i.ibb.co/YhhW0FT/big-Dutch-or-Gernam-locks-5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NKK3Tdn)

We will get them working like watches and sparking like mad without losing any historical details.

dave
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on September 12, 2024, 02:07:45 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/gZ9dcDP/20240911-160542.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yFPpx8Y)

Pretty darned similar.
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: WKevinD on September 12, 2024, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: Feltwad on September 11, 2024, 11:46:28 PM
To me the difference is that your lock  is a repro to the one at the beginning of the thread   no offence
Feltwad
No offence taken. Just feel lucky to get a lock like this to build a gun around that has ready replacement parts.

Kevin
Title: Re: Big early continental lock
Post by: Dave B on September 20, 2024, 12:39:56 AM
Kevin who is the maker of your lock? Its a beautie!