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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Avlrc on December 16, 2024, 12:58:45 AM

Title: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: Avlrc on December 16, 2024, 12:58:45 AM

I know that half-stocks are not the most sought-after rifles for many collectors. But here are two that we thought deserved some attention, as well as their maker.
https://hampshirecountylongrifle.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: VP on December 16, 2024, 06:16:11 AM

Avlrc

That's some really nice rifles. Thanks for posting.

VP

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: bluenoser on December 16, 2024, 04:00:22 PM

Thanks for posting.  Very nice rifles.  Nathaniel Oates, another Hampshire Co. Gunsmith, also used the patchbox/capbox combination.  Dayton and Oates would have been active at the same time and, if memory serves me correctly, Oates also had a connection with Sheetz.

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: Avlrc on December 16, 2024, 05:14:49 PM

Quote from: bluenoser on December 16, 2024, 04:00:22 PM

Thanks for posting.  Very nice rifles.  Nathaniel Oates, another Hampshire Co. Gunsmith, also used the patchbox/capbox combination.  Dayton and Oates would have been active at the same time and, if memory serves me correctly, Oates also had a connection with Sheetz.

Yes, Oates, worked for John Rinehart. John Rinehart was an apprentice to his brother, James Rinehart. James was an apprentice to Zebulon Sheetz and bought Zebulon's gunshop & business in 1835.

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: Avlrc on December 16, 2024, 05:15:45 PM

Quote from: VP on December 16, 2024, 06:16:11 AM

Avlrc

That's some really nice rifles. Thanks for posting.

VP

You are welcome Van, Thanks , Mark

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: Pukka Bundook on December 16, 2024, 05:21:17 PM

Mark,
Thank you for showing these rifles.
This is the first time I have seen a rifle with a butt trap on each side!

Best,
Richard.

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: gusd on December 16, 2024, 06:04:40 PM

Thanks for showing these.
Lots of little details
Gus

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: Bob Roller on December 16, 2024, 07:07:38 PM

I have always had a preference for the Eastern half stock rifles and the high end ones like the Grant rifle in the Smithsonian  have a very strong appeal.The are others a well,I said they stayed snowed in and had nothing to do but make classic muzzle loaders.George Ferris was in Utica N.Y. and I won several baskets of groceries with one that belonged to E,M.Farris who was one of the founders of the NMLRA.It was a 38 caliber and we shot indoors at the National Guard armory in Portsmouth,Ohio.Caliber restricted to 40 with powder charge no more than 40 grains.Round balls and no bullets.That Ferris rifle was a fine example of the Eastern half stock muzzle loader.
Bob Roller

Title: Re: Roland Savage Dayton
Post by: JTR on December 16, 2024, 07:30:06 PM

Thanks for posting those up here, Mark.
Some very interesting guns, and equally interesting news paper clippings as well!
John