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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: SRL on February 17, 2025, 06:01:14 PM

Title: .600 Round Ball
Post by: SRL on February 17, 2025, 06:01:14 PM
I am new to flintlocks. I recently got a smoothbore english trade gun. I purchased a mold for .600 round balls. I was expecting the round ball to roll down the barrel.  But they don't. Anyone experienced this? Should I get a mold for a smaller ball. Thanks for the help!! I sure appreciate it.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: smylee grouch on February 17, 2025, 06:17:46 PM
?? Are you casting with pure lead? Can you measure the cast balls to find the true size? Do the cast balls have an spru above the surface or is it cut off flush with the surface?
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Hungry Horse on February 17, 2025, 06:36:53 PM
 Where did you get the gun? Guns made some years ago in Belgium, India, and even here in the states could be close to gauge but not quite right on the money. Some of the early North Star guns old Curly put out were a little unusual in gauge as I recall.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: SRL on February 17, 2025, 07:01:27 PM
I went the cheap way since I didn't know if I would really like flintlocks. So I ordered a gun from Veteran arms.
So far it shoots great only have used lead shot so far.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: smylee grouch on February 17, 2025, 07:12:03 PM
So you measured the bore ? If so what is it ? Do you use 20 bore wads when shooting shot, like .610dia.?
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: SRL on February 17, 2025, 08:52:43 PM
I ordered and used some over powder wads for a 20 ga. .024 & 1.25 TH
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Mike_StL on February 18, 2025, 06:58:21 AM
You really need to have a digital Vernier caliper.    Calipers of acceptable accuracy are available for about $25,  then you will know  bore diameter, ball diameter and all sorts of precise measurements.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Hungry Horse on February 18, 2025, 11:39:39 PM
SRL, I have no idea who Veteran Arms is. But, it’s likely either a seller of India made arms, or is a direct seller of guns imported from India. Either way you will get a lot of practice repairing parts that were’t hardened enough to take long term ware. I would also suggest a good set of Vernier Calipers to check the bore that is not a true 20 gauge.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Daryl on February 18, 2025, 11:45:08 PM
I didn't see gauge mentioned (other than some wads the OP used) just that a .600" ball would not fall down the tube.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Clark Badgett on February 19, 2025, 12:28:20 AM
I went the cheap way since I didn't know if I would really like flintlocks. So I ordered a gun from Veteran arms.
So far it shoots great only have used lead shot so far.
Well you get what you pay for. Sometimes in spades.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Bigmon on February 19, 2025, 12:41:27 AM
Once you determine the size you actually need, you should be fine.  But the size is all important.  I always patch my round balls in my smoothbores.
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Hungry Horse on February 20, 2025, 02:38:25 AM
 If a .600 won’t go down the bore, and a 20 gauge is .620, maybe it’s a .24 gauge, which would be somewhere in the neighborhood of .580.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: .600 Round Ball
Post by: Daryl on February 20, 2025, 03:18:13 AM
20 bore wads would likely be .620", as 20 bore actually is .615". He was using the wads, so can't be much under .600", maybe .590".