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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: WKevinD on February 19, 2025, 03:34:38 AM

Title: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: WKevinD on February 19, 2025, 03:34:38 AM
This one just ticked all the boxes, I can't afford it but I couldn't let it go.
Kevin
(https://i.ibb.co/WvzVnjQJ/new-fowler2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ch8YJVPn)

(https://i.ibb.co/N6GBJ1w3/new-fowler4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5WJHSYq9)

(https://i.ibb.co/YT7YVSB8/new-fowler6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6gkPT20)

(https://i.ibb.co/dJmZGBPt/new-fowler5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZJtghyz)

(https://i.ibb.co/1JBLqnd2/new-fowler3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TqJk8Tbh)

(https://i.ibb.co/NbzKsmm/new-fowler1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Td5tkbb)

(https://i.ibb.co/WvzVnjQJ/new-fowler2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ch8YJVPn)

(https://i.ibb.co/N6GBJ1w3/new-fowler4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5WJHSYq9)

(https://i.ibb.co/YT7YVSB8/new-fowler6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6gkPT20)

(https://i.ibb.co/dJmZGBPt/new-fowler5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZJtghyz)

(https://i.ibb.co/1JBLqnd2/new-fowler3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TqJk8Tbh)

(https://i.ibb.co/NbzKsmm/new-fowler1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Td5tkbb)
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: Mark Tyler on February 19, 2025, 03:41:42 AM
Congrats! It definitely has the look. What a trigger.
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: rich pierce on February 19, 2025, 04:18:32 AM
Very nice Bucks County fowler!
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: JTR on February 19, 2025, 04:24:41 AM
Very nice! A little work might pin down a maker.
Sometimes you just gotta go for it!
John
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: Avlrc on February 19, 2025, 06:07:10 AM
Nice & congrats.
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: AMartin on February 19, 2025, 03:04:09 PM
very nice Kevin

I need to see that someday soon ..
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: Dave Marsh on February 19, 2025, 04:14:32 PM
Thats a beauty. 
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: 120RIR on February 19, 2025, 05:53:01 PM
I'm envious...that really puts the "B" in Bucks.  Is the same thumbnail design that's on the trigger guard also on the buttplate tang?
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: jdm on February 19, 2025, 06:13:11 PM
That is one nice fowler.  It puts me in mind of  George Weiker . Jim
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: WKevinD on February 19, 2025, 08:16:04 PM
That is one nice fowler.  It puts me in mind of  George Weiker . Jim

Jim, I am not familiar with George Weiker, any direction you can recommend I should look?

Thanks,
Kevin

OK found him. RCA 1 #62  Thanks.
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: Jim Kibler on February 19, 2025, 08:25:41 PM
Nice for sure!
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: JTR on February 19, 2025, 08:28:03 PM
The carving is very similar to the Weiker rifle I have. But my rifle isn't signed either, but is a solid attribution. The problem with Bucks rifles is that they are mostly, with a few exceptions, very similar. Little details in the carving or engraving is what it takes sometimes.
John 
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: 120RIR on February 19, 2025, 08:54:55 PM
WKenvinD - if you have a copy of the updated RCA volume with color photos, there are some color shots of RCA 62 in there.  Some of the photos aren't great (I took them and let's just say I did the best I could) but if you have any detail shots you might like to see for comparative purposes, just holler! 
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: WKevinD on February 19, 2025, 11:26:52 PM
Yes I have the revised RCA and comparing mine to #62 the sideplate, lock, trigger and triggerguard are very similar as well as the visible  carving.
I've found some other attributed Weiker fowlers/ rifles on auction sites that also share carving and hardware details.
I originally thought this was a Lehigh because I wanted it to be one but now comparing it to other Bucks I see what I was missing.

Kevin
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: ScottH on February 19, 2025, 11:48:12 PM
Lots of Nifty details on that one!
Thanks for sharing.  8)
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: JTR on February 20, 2025, 12:14:48 AM
Is there any carving on the cheek side? Any pics?
From the carving, your rifle is comparing favorably with mine, and with pictures of a signed Weiker as well.
John
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: WKevinD on February 20, 2025, 01:16:29 AM
John, No carving cheek side and no cheek piece just the lock and side plate tail carving.
I havn't pulled the barrel to see if there are any marks.
I have pulled the lock and it and it's inlet are clean and without any visible marks.

Kevin
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: JTR on February 20, 2025, 04:57:52 AM
So you have one of the few that was made as a fowler, at least from what I've seen. Most all were made smooth bore, but rifle stocked. Strange guns from that area. Beautiful, I think, but different.
One of the highlights of my collecting, and thanks to the owner was being able to hold and fondle the A Verner/Gunsmith rifle!  ;D
John
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: WKevinD on February 20, 2025, 05:50:25 AM
It does have a rear sight, bot otherwise a fowler.

Kevin
Title: Re: A new fowler for the collection
Post by: Daryl on February 21, 2025, 01:26:25 AM
Back in the time, there actually were smooth rifles in the order forms, re-printed in the Firearms of the American West books.