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Title: New England powder horn
Post by: Shreckmeister on March 09, 2025, 04:04:11 PM
Interesting content on this one

(https://i.ibb.co/9mmZ4hCg/IMG-7068.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GffHM9bp)

(https://i.ibb.co/bMGyZvFW/IMG-7073.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nNKVv1Bg)

(https://i.ibb.co/Z6jhfh41/IMG-7071.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HDSrKrwp)

(https://i.ibb.co/ksC8Rqnq/IMG-7070.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8LZ5WP3P)

(https://i.ibb.co/n81bgZYR/IMG-7076.jpg) (https://ibb.co/84x0KTfX)
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: jdm on March 09, 2025, 06:50:48 PM
The super hero horn!!!!!! 
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: rich pierce on March 09, 2025, 07:54:54 PM
Very cool. I seldom see horns with an integral band at off transition between body and neck. I think it’s possible this horn was made without the mechanical spout, which may be a later addition.
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Kevin on March 09, 2025, 07:55:27 PM
Shreckmeister,

Totally agree that this is an interesting one.  Thanks for sharing the images.  Does the mechanical spout seem to be original to the horn or possibly a later addition?  I only ask because this horn, to me, has an "early" look to it.

Thanks Again,
Kevin

Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Shreckmeister on March 09, 2025, 09:03:13 PM
I would say the brass spout was added. I think the original tip was cut off. I see the image of the kangaroo and just imagine the Sailor traveling from New England into Australia. Love the horn, but I don’t think I can afford it. It would be interesting to re-search the coat of arms.
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Shreckmeister on March 09, 2025, 09:04:23 PM
I saw it at a high end, antique show, but unfortunately it went from one dealer to another before I saw it. I’m sure that increased the price.
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Tanselman on March 09, 2025, 09:29:17 PM
This horn may have been made in Australia. When I see "different" horns that are a little hard to place, its major figures can often tell us about its origin. Also seems to be more common on British Commonwealth horns to have a mechanical/adjustable spout. The curvature of the horn body is an almost perfect match between the body and the section above the lower band. That, along with a matching band near the spout end that is very similar to the lower band, suggests to me it is a solid horn with two carved/added bands. The lower band was probably carved to hide the transition/intersection better between faceted and round surfaces. This horn has enough "different" details that I do not think it is American, and the kangaroo tips it toward Australia. Australia was also known for its "rough and tumble" men, many convicts released there, that the "tough guy" figure seems to support. The slightly recessed plug [flat?] and scalloped end tends to support this attribution as well. The Australian horns I've seen do not use softwood/pine butt plugs, as New England horns most often do, so It would be nice to see the plug.

Can we see a picture of the plug?


Shelby Gallien
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Jeff Murray on March 09, 2025, 10:50:36 PM
Thanks for posting a very interesting horn.  The coat of arms may hold answers to its origin, or at least that of the owner.
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Shreckmeister on March 10, 2025, 06:25:35 AM
Thanks for posting a very interesting horn.  The coat of arms may hold answers to its origin, or at least that of the owner.
   The plug is flat ivory
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Tanselman on March 11, 2025, 12:04:24 AM
Shreckmeister,

Any chance the surface of the butt plug is flattened/polished horn instead of ivory?

Shelby Gallien
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Shreckmeister on March 11, 2025, 02:23:16 PM
I didn’t give it a hard look.
Title: Re: New England powder horn
Post by: Bob Gerard on March 17, 2025, 05:52:34 AM
The figure looks like AstroBoy all grown up 🤣