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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: rich pierce on March 18, 2025, 11:45:37 PM

Title: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: rich pierce on March 18, 2025, 11:45:37 PM
I can’t tell if this is old or a repro. Almost looks like wrought iron. In great shape. 41” long, round, .700 bore. 1.3” at the breech.
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7K7TJYH/IMG-3895.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7JTJNB8s)

(https://i.ibb.co/CKfcbRMg/IMG-3894.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whfkS5wV)
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 12:00:43 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Y43BYWR2/20220830-081057.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8n0gTBKM)

Amsterdam
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2025, 12:15:48 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 03:27:17 AM
is there a brass front sight or bayo lug? If the latter, top or bottom?
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2025, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 03:27:17 AM
is there a brass front sight or bayo lug? If the latter, top or bottom?
2 iron lugs underneath. No other signs this barrel was ever used. No underlugs where expected.
(https://i.ibb.co/rCCNnFW/IMG-3910.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2DDHXWb)
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: WKevinD on March 19, 2025, 04:57:42 AM
That's a great barrel as well!
Kevin
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2025, 05:07:08 AM
Quote from: WKevinD on March 19, 2025, 04:57:42 AM
That's a great barrel as well!
Kevin

I’ll probably use this one to build a plain “militia gun” with no buttplate.
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 08:24:18 PM
shared from a generous colleague in the Netherlands:

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"By the way, behind the Amsterdam mark, you can distinguish a T, this is often found on barrels by Lambertus Thone (working from 1781 onwards). To make things complicated: Thone came from Liege and apparently had a barrel factory in Liege, whilst residing and working in Amsterdam. So this is a barrel, made by Thone [in] Amsterdam, post 1781."

 
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2025, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 08:24:18 PM
shared from a generous colleague in the Netherlands:

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"By the way, behind the Amsterdam mark, you can distinguish a T, this is often found on barrels by Lambertus Thone (working from 1781 onwards). To make things complicated: Thone came from Liege and apparently had a barrel factory in Liege, whilst residing and working in Amsterdam. So this is a barrel, made by Thone [in] Amsterdam, post 1781."

Super helpful!
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: Levy on March 19, 2025, 11:12:41 PM
I've seen that Amsterdam mark on a musket and a small brass cannon recovered from Florida waters.
James Levy
Title: Re: Barrel #2 like a short Bess
Post by: backsplash75 on March 20, 2025, 01:36:00 AM
Quote from: Levy on March 19, 2025, 11:12:41 PM
I've seen that Amsterdam mark on a musket and a small brass cannon recovered from Florida waters.
James Levy

James,
Very cool, Flota wrecks? Can you share images or point me towards a dig report?