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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: rich pierce on March 18, 2025, 11:49:00 PM

Title: Barrel #3 English trade gun or fowler barrel
Post by: rich pierce on March 18, 2025, 11:49:00 PM

45.75” long, .655 bore, round, 1.28” thick at the breech. Birmingham? About when made?

(https://i.ibb.co/SXhQR1GY/IMG-3890.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wN9JMbjG)

(https://i.ibb.co/PzCLmxpG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BKspzLD2)

Title: Re: Barrel #3 English trade gun or fowler barrel
Post by: backsplash75 on March 19, 2025, 12:04:40 AM

Is mark #1 TK?

Is mark #2 IG?

Title: Re: Barrel #3 English trade gun or fowler barrel
Post by: rich pierce on March 19, 2025, 12:17:47 AM

Yes TK. Thomas Ketland?
Yea in the IG.

Title: Re: Barrel #3 English trade gun or fowler barrel
Post by: Mattox Forge on March 19, 2025, 12:57:22 AM

Those look like Pre 1813 London Gunmaker Company proofs. The tang looks like one of the older humpbacked ones that were common pre 1770.

Mike

Title: Re: Barrel #3 English trade gun or fowler barrel
Post by: JV Puleo on March 20, 2025, 07:25:52 PM

I can't see them very well but probably Birmingham private proofs. If so, they pre-date the Birmingham proof house marks. TK could be Thomas Ketland. If so, I suspect it was just a way to identify whose barrel it was. The evidence we now have indicates that the private proof house in B'ham was owned by the Galton's and that they proved barrels for many makers. TK had a son-in-law that was a barrel maker.