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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: snapper on May 31, 2025, 07:30:23 PM

Title: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on May 31, 2025, 07:30:23 PM
A few days ago I took delivery of a .54 cal Alex Henry stalking rifle.  The rifle is in really good shape and is nice and clean.  The hammer appears to be original and lacks what has in the later AH guns the distinctive shape. 

Been trying to get this rifle bought for a few years from a dealer that had it priced unrealistically high.   Not sure what happened to the dealer, but all his stuff ended up on auction recently.   For me, this ended up particularly well as it sold for a small fraction from what the dealer was asking for it.

Hope to find out tomorrow if it shoots.

Fleener


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Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Dave B on May 31, 2025, 07:45:09 PM
Well don Snapper.  I really like the Scottish craftsmanship. Isnt that a Bob Roller lock on there?? It could be if we buy into reincarnation.  Excellent score. When you get to that place when you have to move it down the road give me a call. It would look great next to my percussion SXS Greener 12 bore
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on May 31, 2025, 09:58:01 PM
Dave

Just in case you wanted to see what it actually looks like next to a W. Greener 12 bore.......

Fleener


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Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Sequatchie Rifle on May 31, 2025, 11:25:32 PM
Absolutely gorgeous. I really like Scottish rifles. Especially the really nice ones! Thanks for sharing the photos.
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Daryl on May 31, 2025, 11:38:43 PM
Now BOTH of those are superb eye candy, especially the Scot.
Have you measured the ROT?
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on June 01, 2025, 12:01:39 AM
Daryl

Actually, no I have not measured the ROT yet.

I am assuming it is a RB twist......I hope so anyway.

Hoping to shoot it in the next day or two.

Fleener
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Pukka Bundook on June 01, 2025, 04:52:20 PM
A very nice clean rifle Fleener. It should be ball twist.

Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Bob Roller on June 01, 2025, 05:35:23 PM
Well don Snapper.  I really like the Scottish craftsmanship. Isnt that a Bob Roller lock on there?? It could be if we buy into reincarnation.  Excellent score. When you get to that place when you have to move it down the road give me a call. It would look great next to my percussion SXS Greener 12 bore

Dave B
Thanks for the comment on this lock. These were my inspiration to make a better lock for anyone wanting one.These do go beyond utility grade. Once the fancy bridle is finished, the rest if the lock should have the same level of craftsmanship. Just for a hoot and giggle the last Hawken lock I made was on a cast pate with the "J&S Hawken name cast into it and a mechanism like this lock seen here.The external identification is the screw close to the bottom of the lock plate. Thanks again for the comment about the lock.
Bob Roller
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on June 03, 2025, 03:23:08 AM
Got to shot it yesterday afternoon after getting my spraying done.  I was tired and hot and really not in the mood to shoot but the wind was low and I really wanted to try out the rifle.   It shoots great!  I only got 10 shot or so off before I was totally spent.

Today I got done with my task and the wind was blowing fairly hard so I thought I would just shoot at some steel hanging targets.

I built my range over 20 years ago and it has been patched up a few times and was in need of a total rebuilt with new post and horizonal members and targets rewelded up.

Got all the targets rehung this morning while I waited for the dew to lift.

Since the wind was high, I was able to wack away on the steel targets with a rifle that is mostly sighted in.

Quite happy with this rifle.

Nope, have not measured the rate of twist yet.   Perhaps tomorrow.   Too tired tonight.

Here is a picture of my rebuilt range with 4 sets of targets with the 3 farthest seen in the picture.   Farthest back is around 75 yards.   Behind me is 4 ML reloading tables that are 2"x8" set on post.  Tilled it up and planted clover in it last week.


Fleener


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Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Robin Henderson on June 03, 2025, 08:14:33 PM
Nice! Looks like a fine woodswalk rifle for the NMLRA Friendship Shoot.
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on June 03, 2025, 11:42:57 PM
Robin

That is the plan!

See you next week.

Fleener
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Curtis on June 06, 2025, 08:49:43 AM
Great catch, Art!!  That is quite the nice rifle.

Curtis
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: 120RIR on June 06, 2025, 02:52:49 PM
Pardon my ignorance...what precisely does "stalking rifle" mean?
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Daryl on June 06, 2025, 10:29:27 PM
Spotting, then stalking (sneaking up on) a stag (red deer) to get close enough for a shot.
Due to the installed sights, that would be 150yards to 200 yards, even though the rifle is sighted to 300yds.
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on June 08, 2025, 05:13:56 AM
Also during this period some rifles were strictly target rifles and often had no provision for a ram rod.   You also had military ML.

So some were called sporting rifles to differentiate from the above.

Stalking rifle often has a shorter barrel then say a target rifle.

Fleener
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: HighUintas on June 09, 2025, 05:18:17 AM
Also during this period some rifles were strictly target rifles and often had no provision for a ram rod.   You also had military ML.

So some were called sporting rifles to differentiate from the above.

Stalking rifle often has a shorter barrel then say a target rifle.

Fleener

That is an awesome find. Beautiful. What's the barrel width? Straight or tapered? What time period would this have been made in?
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on June 09, 2025, 11:13:06 PM
Barrel is tapered 1.16" to 1.02".

Built in the 1850's

Fleener
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: Ben I. Voss on July 10, 2025, 05:36:09 PM
Muzzleloading perfection! It just doesn’t get any better.
Title: Re: Alex Henry stalking rifle
Post by: snapper on July 10, 2025, 05:52:01 PM
It shoots well too!

I only had time to get about 10 shots on paper to sight it in and then the next day the wind was terrible, so I just plinked a few rounds at some metal swinging targets.

Took it to Fship and got second place in the woods walk.   I was quite happy on how it was shooting.

This weekend is a shoot in Jefferson Iowa, and I hope to get some more range time with it.

Fleener