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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: foresterdj on June 04, 2025, 12:32:27 AM

Title: seaking information
Post by: foresterdj on June 04, 2025, 12:32:27 AM

My neighbor, who is 90 this Friday, bought this gun when he was in grade school in SE Iowa, so nearly 80 years ago and he says it was well used then.  He calls it his "Shoot out the window" gun because back then he took it to school for show and tell, loaded it up, opened the classroom window and stuck muzzle out and shot it. Can't do that today.

Barrel length 30.25"
caliber .36
barrel across the flats at breach 15/16th, waist 7/8th, muzzle 15/16th
LOP 13"

Side plate is stamped J. HENRY I have one picture plain and one where I highlighted the name, to help pick it out.

If anyone has information about a gun with these markings, please chime in.






(https://i.ibb.co/nqSyWkbC/sotw-full.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y4GSrj3Z)



(https://i.ibb.co/tMMs8cv9/sotw-stock-lock.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nssczfYF)



(https://i.ibb.co/yFMx5HdZ/sotw-J-HENRY-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tT0VsjZ)





(https://i.ibb.co/DHfhQCk2/sotw-highlighted.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VcYRTSD4)

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: cshirsch on June 04, 2025, 04:04:04 PM

It's a J. HENRY & SON rifle.  They made many of these guns under a government contract to fulfill a peace treaty with an Indian tribe.

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: foresterdj on June 04, 2025, 05:08:44 PM

Thanks. My neighbor thought it said and son, but I could not see it.

Do you know what years they were made?

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: rich pierce on June 04, 2025, 06:37:09 PM

This is a pretty late gun based on the lock. Maybe 1860-ish.

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: jdm on June 04, 2025, 10:11:22 PM

Some of these were marked with a U S stamp inthe wood by the back of trigger guard. They are the ones referred to as treaty guns. However no contract with the U.S,government has  turned up yet  to back this up. You might want to check yours. There is a wide range of calibers.  On the small side 36 ,the one I've seen most ,up to fifty on the large side. I  belive they all date 1860's or later. Nice family rifle.

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: spgordon on June 08, 2025, 06:18:41 AM

The "& SON" in these "J. HENRY & SON" rifles appeared below the "J. HENRY." I sure don't see that here. Does anybody else?

(https://i.ibb.co/Ps9BNcBx/Screenshot-2025-06-07-at-8-17-35-PM.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

Title: Re: seaking information
Post by: foresterdj on June 08, 2025, 08:38:46 PM

Seeing your picture I zoomed in close. I cannot see the "& SO     ", but I think the "N" is here where the yellow arrows point.


(https://i.ibb.co/rGPT9JfZ/N.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KjZRnHz9)