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Title: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Benignant on July 09, 2025, 11:05:58 PM
Here is a 6" long splinter forend I made for an unmentionable rifle alongside the other half of the same piece of cherry that it was cut from.

The forend was sealed with 3 coats of Tru-Oil and set in the South Alabama sun to darken naturally for two weeks. The other half was kept inside in my cutoff box.


(https://i.ibb.co/d0C6SBcL/CHFor-Bott2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ZvMcWfY)



(https://i.ibb.co/bjG2DNWy/CHFor-Left2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dsHLxkW3)



(https://i.ibb.co/TxDG1551/CHFor-Right.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G4fD9jj9)




If, of course, you are willing to concede that blasting a piece of cherry wood with 280 to 400 nanometer ultraviolet electromatic radiation from an ongoing thermonuclear explosion 93 million miles away is "natural."



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Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: snapper on July 10, 2025, 02:21:28 AM
Looks like osage.

Fleener
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: 45-110 on July 10, 2025, 02:28:34 AM
Why wait weeks to darken cherry? Dollar bill store, cheap spray oven off cleaner which is mostly lye will provide a dark rich color in minutes.  Neutralize with baking soda.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Benignant on July 10, 2025, 03:03:33 AM
And for those not interested in the natural darkening of cherry: ;)

Why wait weeks to darken cherry? Dollar bill store, cheap spray oven off cleaner which is mostly lye will provide a dark rich color in minutes.  Neutralize with baking soda.



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Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Wood Hick on July 10, 2025, 03:29:28 AM
Did some experimenting with oven cleaner on some figured cherry . Turned out too blotchy so I went the natural route.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: alacran on July 10, 2025, 03:07:17 PM
I have seen 200-year-old cherry furniture. That patina will not come out of a can of oven cleaner.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: 45-110 on July 10, 2025, 06:46:24 PM
I would not worry about a 200 yr patina look on a modern gun!  The lye works very well on Michigan black cherry. I have done 3 stocks and with no regrets. Also all the "oven off" products are NOT the same.
The technique came up on this forum a fews yrs. ago.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: bluenoser on July 10, 2025, 08:48:25 PM
Have tried oven cleaner on test pieces and it came out blotchy.  On the other hand, lye crystals dissolved in water turned out great.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Ron Scott on July 11, 2025, 04:04:28 PM
A UV flourescent light will do an excellent job of moving the yellow tone of cherry to a natural red with two or three days exposure. An additional advantage over  oven cleaner, is there is no grain raising to contend with. We used this process on a cherry wood cradle made for my Granddaughter.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Dan Herda on July 11, 2025, 06:16:01 PM
Fuming with ammonia over night is another way.
(https://i.ibb.co/YFNF2MYF/IMG-2161.jpg) (https://ibb.co/39T91qG9)

Same pc of wood turned the same day, darker pc fumed 24hrs.

Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Dr. Tim-Boone on July 23, 2025, 03:21:06 AM
I found that Sodium Hydroxide from The Science Company works much more predictably on the cherry than oven cleaner. Also, sealing with a 1lb cut of garnet shellac adds a warm reddish tint. Scrape it back to bare wood and then oil varnish finish.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Bob Gerard on July 23, 2025, 04:32:53 AM
I”ll go the oven cleaner route next time I want to harken some cherry that’s coated with baked-on grease 😁
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: john bohan on July 23, 2025, 07:23:07 PM
I had some cherry,left some out in the sun,sprayed it with oven cleaner, nothing seemed to change this wood color so I stocked the gun with maple.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 24, 2025, 04:44:33 PM
I snagged this picture somewhere, I think it was off Jim's customer gallery of pictures.

This is an over cleaner stained cherry stock if I remember right.

(https://i.ibb.co/Z605Gzwh/cherry-kibler.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbF2m4fB)
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Copper Dave on July 24, 2025, 06:16:15 PM
If you use “Easy Off” oven cleaner, it has to be the heavy duty version. The heavy duty has the lye in it to cause the color change. Regular strength doesn’t have the lye as an ingredient.
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: Levy on July 24, 2025, 06:26:56 PM
I have a question concerning what 45-110 said in an earlier post.  The caustic soda/lye/NaOH/sodium hydroxide is a strong base.  Baking Soda is also a base, but a bit weaker.  I don't think you can neutralize a base with another base.  It would take some form of acid.  James Levy
Title: Re: For Those Interested in the Natural Darkening of Cherry
Post by: 45-110 on July 24, 2025, 10:56:36 PM
Levy I have done 2 flint pistol stocks from cherry and one range box with a cherry lid. As I recall I used baking soda....but also may have used ammonia on one to neutralize. The color is exceptionally rich on the range box lid. I used the Dollar bill store cheap plain oven cleaner.  I can't seem to upload a picture today.
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