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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: ntqlvr1948 on July 12, 2025, 10:11:46 PM

Title: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: ntqlvr1948 on July 12, 2025, 10:11:46 PM
I recently picked up this from a friend and cannot find pictures of one like it in my books. It is a very stout musket from at the latest the 1770's. has a 40 inch barrel and had a raised rear sight.  There is the number 176 on the barrel and butt plate. and various other numbers on it. Any clues?

(https://i.ibb.co/hxTSMnf1/IMG-9186.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LDs3Pq5h)

(https://i.ibb.co/R4hTBM7C/IMG-9188.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HpNTxMXr)

(https://i.ibb.co/LdpTnMCz/IMG-9178.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5hcQBd5W)

(https://i.ibb.co/cSGPc5Qh/IMG-9181.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rkx1pncT)

(https://i.ibb.co/kjX66sR/IMG-9184.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hbV11JP)

(https://i.ibb.co/dssbQPrx/IMG-9182.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WNNDck6j)
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: Bob Roller on July 12, 2025, 10:29:14 PM
Check it to see if it has a long forgotten load.Any proof marks that can be photographed would help.
Bob Roller
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: Ky-Flinter on July 12, 2025, 10:40:14 PM
Sorry, I can't help with the ID, but I wonder if the lock is original to the gun?  The mortise looks like a slightly larger lock was inletted prior to this one.

Ron
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: JV Puleo on July 12, 2025, 11:24:07 PM
I believe it is Austrian, late 18th century or very early 19th.
I have something on those muskets somewhere but finding it now isn't possible.
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: ntqlvr1948 on July 13, 2025, 02:24:57 AM
The guy I got it from thought it might be Austrian, and as far as the lock I had suspicions about it but all the screws line up perfectly and the pan matches with the touch hole. If it is replaced it came from the same kind of gun. Above the hammer there is some wood chipped away so that explains that.
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: JV Puleo on July 13, 2025, 05:48:15 PM
I think there is a chart in Bob Held's "The Age of Firearms" that illustrates the evolution of Austrian muskets. I can't find my copy at the moment. I've moved my books all over the house while I work on it.
Title: Re: Help in ID of a European military musket
Post by: ntqlvr1948 on July 14, 2025, 02:15:01 AM
thanks!