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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: varsity07840 on August 04, 2025, 05:50:43 PM
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Does anyone out there have any experience with 4F Schuetzen for priming?
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No, but it would work at least as well or better than 4F of any type from the 70's and 80-'s, which all worked quite well.
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Does anyone out there have any experience with 4F Schuetzen for priming?
Yes it is my primary primer until I run out. The. I'll use whatever 4f is available. It works well.
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I still have more 4F than I will probably ever use. Mostly GOEX but when the pound I have opened is gone I am going to try the Schuetzen 4F I have. If I was starting all over in flintlocks I would just use the 3F I shoot in everything and do away with the extra powder and small priming horns all together.
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If paying top dollar for priming powder that may be marginally better, and sometimes hard to obtain, makes you happy, go for it.
Hungry Horse
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Out of curiosity I'd try some Null-b. The cost per shot is negligible. I like to experiment. Obviously priming with the main charge powder works too.
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3F does work as prime and so does 2F, BUT and a big BUT it is, 4F is faster and Nul B is faster yet.
For me, I cannot hold the rifle any more, it is always moving. I try to time my ball's impact taking into
consideration the lock time. 4F works better for me when attempting to hit the X. On a big steel plate,
there is little difference. With anything other than 4F, the gun moves more after the cock is set free, than
any other slower burning powders in the pan.
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I used Swiss Null B for a long while. Fast. No question. That said, it would “plate” the pan flat black with fouling. I had to use alcohol on a rag between shots depending on humidity. Mad Monk said it was the percentage of graphite compared to normal powder. I dropped back to 4f and the problem greatly reduced. In the priming powder test 4f and Null B were very close in ignition speed.
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Out here on the far west coast I never see Null B. With our lower temperatures and much lower humidity I would think it might work well but as I said I have no real experience with it so I will let it go at that. I have always used 4F and probably always will as I have a lifetime supply for priming purposes and a separate priming horn in each of my shooting bags.
Where you have high humidity like in the South and Southeastern states does the fine powders turn wet and soppy easier than say 3F or even 2F?
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For years I hunted pheasant almost in sight of San Francisco Bay. I hunted with a trade gun I built from scratch, and alway primed with 3F because of the moisture.
Hungry Horse
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Null B is the fastest as proven by Pletch but that does not mean 4f, 3f or 2f will not get the job done. I use Null B because I still have a supply.
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The 3 or 4 pounds of 4F I have will outlast me. Caps, on the other hand, I only have a couple thousand.
Starting to worry.