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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Ron Scott on August 13, 2025, 08:36:41 PM
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Ron Scott’s 1760s English Rifle class. NMLA Seminar 2026. Bowling Green Kentucky
This Rifle is based on a Rifle by Griffin owned by Archibald Montgomery, Colonel Commandant of Montgomery’ Highlanders. The Rifle will use a 28 inch barrel by Rice with caliber choices of 54,58 or 60 with a hook breech. The mounts will be typical of those used by the Griffin workshop and cast in brass. The lock will be a modified Chambers Early Ketland with some file work. The stock architecture is similar to Fowlers from the Griffin shop., with exception of a wood buttrap. The trigger is of single design. A precision folding leaf rear sight will be part of the rifle set. Ron has selected a group of stock blanks from his inventory of European Walnut from which the students can acquire at discount prices. Students are urged to request barrels early to ensure availability. Stock blank photos are available now for examination and selection. The Griffin rifle has the option of being finished in various degrees of ornamentation. Rons class will accommodate students who are returning with past seminar projects as well as the new rifle. As of today there are only four of the selected stock blanks left.
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Hi Ron,
Are you going to make it with its insane drop at heel and cast off? ;D
dave
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Ron,
I looked on the NMLRA site, but due to my ignorance, I was unable to find out any information about the class. When is the class, and how do I sign up?
Thanks
Mike
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Ron Scott’s 1760s English Rifle class. NMLA Seminar 2026. Bowling Green Kentucky
This Rifle is based on a Rifle by Griffin owned by Archibald Montgomery, Colonel Commandant of Montgomery’ Highlanders.
Ron,
Could we persuade you to post a photo of the rifle this class will focus on? Or perhaps provide a link if there are photos already available?
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Hi Ron,
Are you going to make it with its insane drop at heel and cast off? ;D
dave
Dave,
Is this is the one you are referencing?
(https://i.ibb.co/9S7V2V8/Bailey-p17.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zDz7b7n)
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Yes.
dave
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Wild drop and cast off.
Can we assume that Montgomery's right eye may have been damaged--that he was holding it right handed, but shooting with his left eye?
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Very exciting class!
A gun like this has been on my to do list for a while. I designed a 10 bore 30 inch barrel version based on the original design.
(https://i.ibb.co/xKns2yTV/Griffin-Short-Rifle-10-BORE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gb07rGKs)
In the book Griffin of Bond Street, Eric Griffin thinks that the rifle might have been fitted with a new lock by Joseph Griffin.
(https://i.ibb.co/V03Hxg6N/Bailey-p17-side-view.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8nXzbrkB)
It may have been fitted with a bridled version of this round faced lock that Benjamin Griffin typically used in the time frame that the gun was originally built.
(https://i.ibb.co/GvdrzDFd/20230521-170614.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ynNxHCVN)
Mike
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Yes, the photos posted represent the nature of the project. The butt stock will be fitted to each individual in the class. I am currently organizing the order for barrels and will be transporting stock blanks for inlet.