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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: Jim Kibler on October 14, 2025, 01:20:55 AM

Title: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Jim Kibler on October 14, 2025, 01:20:55 AM
I've been working on the Hawken kit patchbox production process.  Here is the start...  Sorry about the angle of the photos.  Not sure why it did this.


(https://i.ibb.co/20ZKCRX4/IMG-0590.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HLhgbRm8)

(https://i.ibb.co/kVJ9NJys/IMG-0591.jpg) (https://ibb.co/35vMgvs9)
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: GumSloughMuzzleloader on October 14, 2025, 01:27:13 AM
Looking good, Jim, real good.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Bob Gerard on October 14, 2025, 01:38:48 AM
It looks more decorative than I imagined it would look , but I am not a Hawken guy. Will it have any engraving in the lid?
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Jim Kibler on October 14, 2025, 01:45:23 AM
An original my version was based off of.  This is made from sheet steel.  Won’t be any engraving right now as I need to work on the process more. 
(https://i.ibb.co/BFcC0hz/IMG-0459.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Q4Cgxr)
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Daryl on October 14, 2025, 03:49:01 AM
While I don't like patch-boxes on Hawken rifles, this one is amazing if a mite LARGE! imo.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Jim Kibler on October 14, 2025, 04:38:03 AM
While I don't like patch-boxes on Hawken rifles, this one is amazing if a mite LARGE!

Thanks Daryl.  As to the size, trust me…  I’d have thought you and others would have figured this bit out by now😉
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: 45-110 on October 14, 2025, 01:32:56 PM
While I don't like patch-boxes on Hawken rifles, this one is amazing if a mite LARGE!
You must not have any good reference material or books on the subject matter.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: mountainman on October 14, 2025, 04:27:14 PM
That's really a nice patch box.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: David Rase on October 14, 2025, 04:28:05 PM
An original my version was based off of.  This is made from sheet steel.  Won’t be any engraving right now as I need to work on the process more. 
(https://i.ibb.co/BFcC0hz/IMG-0459.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Q4Cgxr)
I always liked this patchbox design.  Good choice for inspiration.  There were a lot of "non mountain" Hawken's.  Glad to see you chose the route you took on this rifle.  Could be a Hawken revival coming to a range near you in the near future. 
R/David
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Dphariss on October 14, 2025, 05:54:52 PM
When you get it finalized I want to buy one I have a scratch built Hawken in the works and was just thinking I needed a patch box (not a cap box) but making it is too much work if I can buy a good one.
I like your Hawken a lot. I was just at the Firearms Museum in Cody and looked at the Johnson Hawken again. Like the late Bridger its a club. Thankful yours is J&S. I often wonder if either of these later rifles were actually made by Sam. Having done some horse riding and packing in the past I KNOW they got heavier for a durability factor. Horses are hard on firearms. But I just don’t care for these later “wagon train guide/army scout” era S. Hawkens.

Thanks for all you have done. Really.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: L T Grey on October 14, 2025, 06:41:56 PM
Good choice Jim. That will be a very nice option for the rifle. I suspect some of those might get purchased for iron mounted flint rifles if available as part.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Yazel.xring on October 14, 2025, 06:45:00 PM
Great canvas for some engraving practice.
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: Jim Kibler on October 15, 2025, 03:19:20 PM
Thanks guys.  I really do appreciate the positive feedback.   To say there are entrenched ideas relating to Hawken rifles is an understatement.  My view on our Hawken kit design was that adjustments could be made to make it something better in the end.  Some understood and trusted me and some didn't.  To see it come together and have support means a lot. 

Jim
Title: Re: Hawken kit patchbox
Post by: HighUintas on October 15, 2025, 06:49:32 PM
I was going to make myself a patchbox just like that for my Hawken build.... This will be hard for me to avoid buying instead of making.

Looks great!!