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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: Mike Brooks on December 07, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
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Built this a little while ago. Hoyt 20 bore barrel oct. fading to round 51 1/4" long. (4 pieds). English walnut. chambers modified Ketland lock. Butt plate and sideplate are home made. Typical 1740 era French trade gun.
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More....
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Mike I really like your guns. ;D
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Cool stuff! Run piggy run!
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Nice. The pics may have a blue tint but I see only green.
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Yep, blueish. It was so dark here when I took those pictures I had to play around with the brightness and contrast when I edited the photos. That's what you get for light most of the time in Iowa in the winter! ;)
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Very nice Mike. ;D
Ez
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what's the price ?
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Nice gun Mike, my kinda long! Sweet.
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what's the price ?
Sold before I made it. I could make you one just like it if you want. ;D
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Wow, beautiful gun! You do some really nice work.
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Beauty of a gun...
But what am I seeing ahead at the top of the breech? ;D
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Sighting groove filed in the breech plug? my original french barrel is that way.
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Awesome....
Can you post a pic of the original. That really is a rare attribute!
Giz
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I really like the finish on this Fusil de trait a lot. Very well done.
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Very nice Mike!!! You give them a beautiful warm look & feel.
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What is the origin of the "folk art" dogs running a pig? Is that a historical thing or a Brooks thing?
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There is a sideplate on a gun by Mahay of Paris circa 1730. It has two dogs chasing a porker as well.
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What is the origin of the "folk art" dogs running a pig? Is that a historical thing or a Brooks thing?
Hounds chasing game is quite common 1730's - 40's french guns. Trade gun scenes can be quite crude and high level guns are very nicely done. I have always found the pig charming so I tend to do that one over stags or foxes.
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I know I've asked this before elsewhere, but I haven't gotten an answer that satisfies me yet.
I notice that you left very little flat surface surrounding the lock. I like that look, but I have seen wide variations in how much builders leave there. In some cases the lock seems to be an island in an ocean of flat wood. In others there is more flat below and less above, or vice versa, or front to back. In some cases the outline of the flat mimics the lock shape and in others there seems to be only the vaguest relation.
Is there a best practice, or does it vary by style and era? Is it just personal taste? Is there a relation between the area around the lock and the area around the sideplate?
Thanks for sharing the pics.
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To my eye, Mike has really nailed the look of an original fowler. Studying original flintlock guns or images of them, you will soon get a feeling for the lock panel treatment of which you refer. This is perhaps even more obvious in European arms.
We as 'replicators' interpret what we see, and try to apply that information to the guns we make. I think many times, builders like the look of a contemporary piece, and emulate that, rather than going straight back to the source. This is perhaps why lock panels can be tastefully narrow and discreet, as in Mike's fine piece, or wide and pronounced. Even loud! One thing that we builders have difficulty with, is being brave enough to cut away the extra wood, wherever it is on the stock...the barre/ramrod web, the forearm, the cheek piece, the wrist, or the lock panel. On original pieces, I have not kept a ratio of narrow vs wide panels, but it is my impression that we should be shooting for the narrow look.
Nice gun Mike.
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Very cool gun as usual. That butt stock looks awfully neat though.
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Thanks for the comments guys. Got another one of these to do soon.
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That is a beautiful piece of wood, and a beautiful gun!!
~Tony
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Excellent job, Mike. I thoroughly love the long, sleek lines of the French design styles. Congratulations!
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Speaking of interpretations, what is the differences between the rifle you've built and say the C/fin version of the French Fusil?
BTW, I really admire your work!
Best Regards
-- Peter
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Speaking of interpretations, what is the differences between the rifle you've built and say the C/fin version of the French Fusil?
BTW, I really admire your work!
Best Regards
-- Peter
The difference between a de trait and a fin is basically a quality thing. The fin will have a bridal on the tumbler, better barrel and the decoration will be more skill full and better executed. There will also be a over all higher degree of fit and finish.