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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Shreckmeister on December 22, 2013, 04:37:13 PM

Title: Shreck 1855 Final pictures up.
Post by: Shreckmeister on December 22, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
   Thought I would share this photo of the toe plate on a halfstock rifle by Wm. G. Shreckengost.
I thought it was exceptionally nice.

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2FaToeplate_zps32c03fd6.jpg&hash=da37dab7a9792230b678ce8d1fd5dfd226ca22c3) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/aToeplate_zps32c03fd6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Bill-52 on December 22, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Shreckmeister,

Very nice indeed; the engraving is very pleasing to the eye.

It appears some of the screws are flat top, others are slightly oval top?  May be the shadows.

Bill
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: alyce-james on December 22, 2013, 06:04:03 PM
Good morning Sir; Thanks for sharing the G. Shreckengost toe plate engraving. Very interesting styling. Have a Merry Christmas. AJ

Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Paul E. Wog on December 22, 2013, 06:06:14 PM
Mr. Meister,
  Very nice sir...thank you for sharing!
  I can always tell when Christmas is near, as visions of Shreckengost's dance in your head ::) ::) ;D
  Now, what about the rest of the rifle ??? ???
                     Peace Out    Shreck ( NOT Meister ) ;)    
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Majorjoel on December 22, 2013, 07:11:12 PM
Ya Flaydermaus, that vision of Shreckengost's toe only wets my appetite enough to want to see more! Thanks Rob for the teaser and Merry Christmas!     Joel
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Buck on December 22, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
Rob,
Outstanding! I don't want to say anymore.
Buck
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Shreckmeister on December 23, 2013, 12:38:45 AM
Bill. The screws are all flat top.  Thought you guys might like it. Can't recall seeing too many prettier than this one.
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: jdm on December 23, 2013, 05:03:08 AM
Just like a girl with long legs..........That toe plate goes all the way there!
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855
Post by: Shreckmeister on December 23, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
Just like a girl with long legs..........That toe plate goes all the way there!
   
JDM,  Funny how everything can make us think about a pretty girl.
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855 AND COMB PIECE
Post by: Shreckmeister on December 31, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
Here is the comb piece.  Very delicately inlaid the full length of the comb terminating at the
tang and buttplate.

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2013-11-30_16-19-31_611_zpsdf86046d.jpg&hash=59ba2360e3a6dbebf01cd2a9e265bbeb9e61ba7c) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2013-11-30_16-19-31_611_zpsdf86046d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855 AND COMB PIECE
Post by: Paul E. Wog on December 31, 2013, 10:48:48 PM
Mr. Meister,
  Thank you for another Holiday Teaser ::)...very nice indeed.  As you said, delicate and subtle.  Not at all like any Shreckengosts' I know ;D
  When will the next Holiday installment take place ???
  Happy New Year to you and your family!
                               Peace Out  Shreck ( NOT Meister )
As a footnote, the bottle of 16 year Lagavulin is still uncracked at my house :o
 
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855 AND COMB PIECE
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 01, 2014, 12:08:59 AM
Then let's get crackin when the opportunity presents
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855 AND COMB PIECE
Post by: jdm on January 02, 2014, 01:16:21 AM
The Shreckengost  family sure had a talent for engraving. Did they make anything else, or do engraving on other objects ?
Title: Re: Shreckengost toe plate circa 1855 AND COMB PIECE
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 02, 2014, 04:26:12 AM
I've pondered that same question and looked for any evidence that he engraved other things without success. I have been told he did blacksmith work as well as gunbuilding but judging from the number of rifles I have found I am sure gunsmith was his primary occup.
Title: Re: Shreck toeplate 1855, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 07, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
Here is the tang, sideplate and breech.  Barrel stamped "Postley Nelson" 1852-1858 Pittsburgh

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2Fpix779096516_zpse92ba4ed.jpg&hash=d911892bb9242c716152d9d99360783062272bbd) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/pix779096516_zpse92ba4ed.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Bob Roller on January 08, 2014, 04:03:15 PM
Shrekmeister,
Can you show the working side of that fancy rifle??

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 08, 2014, 11:15:41 PM
Shrekmeister,
Can you show the working side of that fancy rifle??

Bob Roller
   Sent to your email.
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: jdm on January 08, 2014, 11:18:58 PM
The engraving on the barrel is a nice touch. Hardly seen at all on longrifles.
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Bob Roller on January 09, 2014, 03:34:11 AM
Yes you did and that is a fine old rifle.

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 09, 2014, 03:57:09 PM
I need better quality photos before I post the overall rifle.
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: oakridge on January 09, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
Very nice rifle.

I thought you were just posting one photo per week, to prevent us from overdosing.   :)
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 09, 2014, 09:11:08 PM
 ;)  There's an element of that.  Drama enriches the experience.
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 10, 2014, 04:11:14 AM
This cheek piece represents the pinnacle of Wm Shreckengosts work with multiple piercings and
delicate engraving.  It aint like layin an oval in there!

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2014-01-09_17-21-28_60_zps5edf0ff9.jpg&hash=fa49d9c5985db434c7c8d94e06bcded4eefedff3) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2014-01-09_17-21-28_60_zps5edf0ff9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 toeplate, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Buck on January 11, 2014, 04:27:56 PM
Rob,
Beautiful piece!
Buck
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 12, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2014-01-09_17-23-14_855_zpsff05e7cf.jpg&hash=807bb4cc473851224e1118c97061f52a047924d3) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2014-01-09_17-23-14_855_zpsff05e7cf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: jdm on January 12, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
This just keeps getting better and better.  Do you have any history on this rifle? I wonder if it was his personal rifle or made for a family member. Definitely made for someone special not the ordinary 1850's rifle.
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 12, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
Jim,
    The guy has some history on it in a box somewhere.  He recently moved and can't locate it.
If he finds it, I will let you know.
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 13, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
This just keeps getting better and better.  Do you have any history on this rifle? I wonder if it was his personal rifle or made for a family member. Definitely made for someone special not the ordinary 1850's rifle.

I came across a similarly designed target rifle a couple years ago that was not quite as ornately decorated, but
the condition was a bit rougher.  I also wondered if this might be his personal rifle, but unless the owner finds
the documentation from his grandfather, we will never know.  Of course we have his son's personal rifle
in the Library (swivel breech listed under Lincoln Shreckengost)
Title: Re: More Shreck 1855 Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 13, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2013-11-30_16-17-29_390_zps690c1298.jpg&hash=eef17a92f4e0a9a88f82ccc60c2346825bc69473) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2013-11-30_16-17-29_390_zps690c1298.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Added Shreck 1855 Forestock, Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 15, 2014, 05:50:42 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2013-12-01_11-59-03_257_zps88c0a74b.jpg&hash=82e46e06fc1b93aa758a315209d9fdede851b3ab) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2013-12-01_11-59-03_257_zps88c0a74b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Added Shreck 1855 Forestock, Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Paul E. Wog on January 16, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Mr. Meister,
  Wunderbar ;D
  Now, how bout a pic of that mass-produced, hardware store patchbox...if there is one ???
  Oh wait, he WAS the hardware store in town ::)
                   Peace Out...........Shreck ( NOT Meister )
Title: Re: Added Shreck 1855 Forestock, Rear Sight, Comb, Breech, Sideplate, Tang
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 16, 2014, 06:28:39 PM
Ask and ye shall receive

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2014-01-09_17-16-36_541_zps67bfdf22.jpg&hash=a0d033d5a63052fde3feeea6df1375e967e2cc03) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2014-01-09_17-16-36_541_zps67bfdf22.jpg.html)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2Fpix865966589_zps2282be21.jpg&hash=efdfd6a605650d43c58284e42b9aacc180b4995f) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/pix865966589_zps2282be21.jpg.html)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2013-12-01_11-58-43_858_zps94d1eff9.jpg&hash=c31e2395cc12b1d8b6f93d9f2db986141e7df179) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2013-12-01_11-58-43_858_zps94d1eff9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 Final pictures up.
Post by: Shreckmeister on January 30, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
Closeup of the wearplate

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2F2013-11-30_16-17-36_890_zps3c56e5d1.jpg&hash=98a3e0cd36e80284556c98ca4fcab3c765f57629) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/2013-11-30_16-17-36_890_zps3c56e5d1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 Final pictures up.
Post by: homerifle on January 31, 2014, 04:52:25 AM
That's some fine work not seen so often on a late gun. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Shreck 1855 Final pictures up.
Post by: Buck on February 01, 2014, 02:42:11 AM
Rob,
she's a beauty! I can't wait to hold it in my hands.
Buck