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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: RoddyJB on September 15, 2014, 08:36:01 PM

Title: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: RoddyJB on September 15, 2014, 08:36:01 PM: I have had this for years and just dug it out again & thought I would share some pictures on some of the muzzleloading forums.
This is a customized Russ Hamm # 17 lock along with a 2 piece trigger guard.
Pierced with 14k Gold rivets & inlays etc.
You can see the 14k hallmark on the dragon.
Even the nut has a gold top added and the top jaw screw has an inlaid band of gold.
The trigger guard is pierced with gold and even the sides and ends are inlaid.
No idea how deep the side inlays go.
There is an eagle on the cock, leaves on the jaws, maybe a vulture & trusty hunting dog on the side plate along with some foliage.
The frizzen has the dragon & leaves.
This is truly one of a kind!
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Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: WadePatton on September 16, 2014, 12:51:31 AM: You know Au is heavy like Pb, maybe Pletch needs to time that one to see how adding weight to the moving parts affects ignition.

I don't know if he ever did test the aluminum/titanium concepts.

Nice Jewelry, better than a fancy watch.
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Gary Tucker on September 16, 2014, 03:09:07 AM: Very unique!
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: RoddyJB on September 16, 2014, 03:10:34 AM: Yep! There is not another one of these out there anywhere!
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Dr. Tim-Boone on September 16, 2014, 03:51:50 PM: Oh, my...........
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: AMartin on September 16, 2014, 08:38:10 PM: I believe I would peel the gold off ... and recycle ...

But what do I know ?!?

Al
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Shreckmeister on September 16, 2014, 09:18:17 PM: You didn't mention who did the customization?
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: RoddyJB on September 16, 2014, 09:39:01 PM: This came to me through an estate. I don't know who actually did the work.
Rod
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Shreckmeister on September 16, 2014, 11:10:35 PM: Here's a couple locks the way I like them. (https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq300%2Fdavec2_photos%2FWalnutStockedRifle5_zps1bfd7a03.jpg&hash=53fb8df43bf7296dbb05c0d80c5e318781715722)

(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608030729308276732&pid=15.1&P=0)
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: smart dog on September 17, 2014, 02:19:03 AM: Quote from: AMartin on September 16, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
I believe I would peel the gold off ... and recycle ...

But what do I know ?!?

Al

I agree. The gold is worth more than the lock and guard.

dave
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: jamesthomas on September 17, 2014, 04:15:42 AM: I think it would go great with jerrywh's Jeager barrel the one with the gold inlay. "thumbs up!"
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Don Getz on September 17, 2014, 05:12:07 AM: Jimmy........Sorry, but it would be a tragedy to even try to match that lock with Jerry's
barrel. Not in the same league.........Don
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: eddillon on September 17, 2014, 07:09:55 PM: Maybe a Hamm sandwich at a banquet/ Flintglop.
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Hungry Horse on September 17, 2014, 11:19:14 PM: Peterson Publishing printed a book many moons ago, about a hermit/mountainman that mined for gold along "the river of no return" in Idaho. He built oddball muzzleloaders, with fittings very much like the ones you have. The gold ornamentation was made from gold he panned from the river. I don't think I would start melting this stuff down quite yet, it may have collectors value beyond the gold content. The purity of the gold might give you an insight into if it was unrefined gold, or not.

Hungry Horse
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: elk killer on September 17, 2014, 11:34:31 PM: anything that Sylvain Hart AKA Buckskin Bill made,
the Idaho Mtn Man was a bit above this.. ;D
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Tom Currie on September 18, 2014, 12:08:56 AM: Funcky
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: smart dog on September 18, 2014, 02:20:19 AM: Hi Hungry Horse,
This has no connection with Sylvan Hart. His work was much different and much better. This lock and trigger guard make me think of a fully chromed 1970s GTO with furry dashboard, wheel, and dice hanging from the mirror. But not as good.

dave
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on September 19, 2014, 06:49:19 PM: Quote from: AMartin on September 16, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
I believe I would peel the gold off ... and recycle ...

But what do I know ?!?

Al

Thanks. Do you know how long it's going to take me to clean all this coffee off my computer screen?
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: AMartin on September 20, 2014, 03:37:17 AM: sorry Eric .... I'll send you a fresh roll of the quicker picker upper !!!

Al
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: bob in the woods on September 21, 2014, 02:43:16 AM: Some how that lock and trigger guard bring to mind Tammy Baker's makeup ::)
Perhaps you could use it on a "steam punk" blunderbuss.
Title: Re: RUSS HAMM 14K GOLD INLAID 17 LOCK TRIGGER GUARD FLINTLOCK
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on September 23, 2014, 09:11:20 PM: I don;t want a roll of towels d***it, I want my coffee back! There was a good slug of Baileys that just went down the tubes....