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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Shreckmeister on July 28, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
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A friend found this 1779 Muster roll of John Moll's Company in Northumberland County. I am told they were
at Fort Augusta. The 4 men on this roll were all possibly gunsmiths. Schreckengost and Zartman were for sure.
Maybe one of you guys can tell me something about Albright. Zartman's grandson was Joshua Zartman and
I've seen guns signed by him and the Zartman family history lists his grandfather as gunsmith. John Schreckengost's grandson married Jacob Zartman's granddaughter and
they are my 4 great grandparents Benjamin Schreckengost and Susannah (Zartman) Schreckengost.
Maybe you guys can ID other gunsmiths in this outfit.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk570%2Fsuzkat11%2FJohan%2520Schreck%2520amp%2520Jacob%2520Zartman%2520John%2520Moll%2520Muster%2520Roll%25201779_zpsl8c3rqk3.jpg&hash=95a7fe7ff9c75e88dec087ba77a595f2a1944608) (http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/suzkat11/media/Johan%20Schreck%20amp%20Jacob%20Zartman%20John%20Moll%20Muster%20Roll%201779_zpsl8c3rqk3.jpg.html)
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Why do we think Stoffel Albright was a gunsmith?
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That's not the same John Moll of Allentown. What documentation is there indicating this John Moll was a gunsmith? That would be one heck of an interesting coincidence if he was.
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I think I jumped to a conclusion on this, but since Eric and Scott have done so much research on Albright and Moll, I would appreciate it if you could take a look at this info and let me know if there are ties between these men and the know Moll and Albright gunsmiths. I edited my earlier statement to reflect more of an inquiry than a statement.
https://books.google.com/books?id=T8XwW7YQZXIC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=jacob+albright++sr+northumberland&source=bl&ots=GmThWLLgHC&sig=VRAi3d3q9xiVjR5CF0QrkTOlirM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMI0czMx6T_xgIVRc6ACh0DiAKs#v=onepage&q=jacob%20albright%20%20sr%20northumberland&f=false
http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?707,570376
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I've only researched Andreas Albrecht, so I don't know anything about these other (unrelated) Albrights.
But all I see in the document to which you linked is that Christopher (Stophel) Albright was one of three children of Jacob Albright. It looks like all the information about him comes from muster rolls. Is there any information that suggests he was a gunsmith?
Was Stophel's brother Jacob Albright, Jr., the gunsmith about whom Merle Cambpell wrote in the KRA Bulletin in 1990 (in the big brown book)? That Jacob Albright, Jr., was in Haines Township, Northumberland County, as early as 1798/1799 and died in 1840. Cambpell doesn't, I think, identify the brothers of this Jacob Albright, Jr.
Scott
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I believe I read that Stophel was Jacob Jr's brother. Let me look for where I read that and post it here.
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The thing you did post, Rob, states that they are brothers (assuming this is the same Jacob Albright, Jr., who was the gunsmith).
But I still don't understand why this suggests that Christopher/Stophel Albright was a gunsmith.
Andreas Albrecht, for instance, had five sons but did not train most of them as gunsmiths. William Henry of Lancaster had six sons who lived into early adulthood (John J., William Jr., Abraham, Matthew, James, Benjamin W.) and only two of them, it seems, he directed toward the gunsmith profession.
Scott
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Hi Scott, I amended my posting about Albright before your last post. I'm looking for information supporting him being a gunsmith.
Since you have interest in the family, I will try to share the other information I have later. Thanks
Rob