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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: muddywaters on April 20, 2016, 04:30:22 PM

Title: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: muddywaters on April 20, 2016, 04:30:22 PM

first one looks like a british sea service but is marked "duke of york across barrel"
brander and potts lock with lots of proof marks .. looks like the trigger guard is bent and not original ram rod

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here is the second one. no markings on lock or barrel visible

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Title: Re: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: Mike Brooks on April 20, 2016, 06:48:40 PM

The first is British and has been connected with the Duke of York's estate back in the day. Some kind of a servants pistol.
 The second is probably Dutch, 1720-ish.

Title: Re: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: muddywaters on April 20, 2016, 06:59:10 PM

thanks mate!!

Title: Re: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: smart dog on April 21, 2016, 05:22:41 AM

Hi Muddy,
Branders and Potts worked near the Minories in London between 1802-1827.  They were contractors to the British Ordnance department.  I agree with you that it may be a sea service pistol.  There was an HMS Duke of York during the 1760s but also 2 commercially built armed ships of that name hired by the Royal Navy at the end of the 18th century and early in the 19th century.

dave

Title: Re: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: muddywaters on April 21, 2016, 01:43:12 PM

Thanks ! Why duke of York inscribed ? Value ? :)

Title: Re: help identifying old flintlock pistols
Post by: smart dog on April 21, 2016, 02:09:01 PM

Hi,
Maybe it was inscribed "Duke of York" to signify it was from one of those ships.

dave