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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: Michigan Flinter on June 06, 2016, 02:40:55 AM
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We had our monthly shoot today at Looking Glass River Long Rifles near Eagle Mi. it was a woodswalk and one of the stations is split the ball . Well one of the members(Stickie) shoots a .25 cal flinter and he cut that .gleana pill into and broke both clay birds . We have about twentyfive members and get around twenty shooters, each month to shoot. Great club to belong to.
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That's darn good, .25 caliber! Haven't shot ax & clay for years but I remember (at least it seemed like) when ever that contest came up, many shooters headed to get their .54's and up. It was good fun, and I'm sure it still is to this day. Kind of like to do it again. :)
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That's excellent shooting. We do a egg shoot with fishing line. Cut the line drop the egg. It's fun.
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Got into a shoot off splitting the ball with a guy shooting a 32 that I sold to him, after three hits each, he beat me, I was shooting a 58 and him the 32. :D
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Splitting the ball off a real double bit axe sunk into a chunk is what we used to do at Chilliwack Buffalo shoot. It was called the "Buffalo Shoot" as the prizes were various cuts of buffalo meat.
When I was dating my current wife (just celebrated our 40th anniversary) I won 40 pounds of meat at one of them. 10# for a first, 6# second IIRC and 2 or 3# for a third. I was shooting a Bauska Barrel, a .50 with 38" twist .008" rifling and 80gr. 2F with .022" 'brushed denim patch and a .495" pure lead ball. WOW - all coming back to me. I used the same 80gr. charge with 350 to 450gr. slugs for bench shooting and turkey shoots at the Burnaby range.
Taylor was shooting his .62 Hawken, a lovely rifle, with 10 lines to the inch fiddle-back Eastern Maple. The hole the screw-head (welded to the axe head-not a Double Bit axe) got loose in the chunk and they had Taylor bore them a new hole with his rifle for the 5/8" bolt! I think he was using about 180gr. 2F then. Good shooting load. He also won the 250yard buffalo match on a steel gong target. 42 years ago. Don't ask me what I had for lunch yesterday, though.
Splitting a ball to break 2 clay birds, is easier than splitting cards as any part of the ball will split off and can break the other bird, however, if not almost perfectly centered on the card, the ball's edge will bend the card and only cut a snip, or part way through. Only completely cut cards count.
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Splitting a ball with a double bit axe and breaking 2 clays is child's play. Drive a Phillips head screw driver backwards into a log, shoot with a .22 and break 4 clays. That's sporting clays!
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Still mastering hex bit. I'll keep ya'll posted.
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Thirty some years ago up at the Daniel Morgan Apple Blossom Rifle Frolic, I saw a guy shoot at a Ham on a string, object to cut the string, the Ham falls you win the Ham. A guy stepped up to shoot, fizzbang, you could see the Ham shake all of a sudden it fell to the ground, he was shooting a .25. If I remember right it was a 60 yard shot.
Used to be a really fun shoot, always looked forward to it coming out of Winter.
Tim C.
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That's shooting with any rifle, Tim - even a scoped one.
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We had much the same "prize shoots" with the Southern Shooting Heritage Association at a gun club outside Conyers Ga. 2 problems. The first was the use of braided twine which didn't seem to want to part unless you hit it with a 40mm Bofers gun. The second problem was that some of the, for kindness sake, I will call uninitiated, didn't grasp the concept of "cut the string" and shot the prizes to pieces. I won't name names, but you know who you are. But still great fun and many laughs.
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It's amazing how useless a cast iron tray for casting lead ingots, or a powder measure is when repeatedly shot with a .50 cal.
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We had a ham shoot on a string. Cut string win ham. But some rascal (me) Weaved piano wire down the string. Was a humbling experience for the crack shots. They just couldn't figure out why that string wouldn't break. They could see the hit but it would just move. All had a good laugh when they found out.
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That's half the fun. We set up a woods walk once. Plenty of folks so had a morning and afternoon walk. But we went out at lunch and took down all the targets before the afternoon group went out. Much confusion. People shooting at shadows. Dark leaves. Etc. Of course being the range officer helped in our little game. I learned many colorful words that day. Or at least the way they were strung together. Poetic.
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Every New Year's Day I have a shoot, for those that dodged the hangover, and/or hate football. It's called the Shootwhatchabrung match. The grand fanale is always either a rope cut, or a stake shoot. One year I couldn't find an old piece of rope to hang the prize from, and stopped by the feed store, and bought a piece of rope they use for hackamores. That is the toughest stuff in the world to cut off with a reasonable number of bullets. I was instructed never to use it again.
Hungry Horse
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"Back in the day" I used to be able to split the ball with a .32 flintlock holding the gun upside down on top of my head, several other of my buds could easily do the same. Good mojo is the key. I suspect my mojo isn't quite what it used to be..... ;)
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Mike, I've seen some of your work so I know your a talented individual. And normally I take things with a grain if salt. But I'm gonna go ahead and call B.S. On your last post. Of course I may be wrong or premature in bushing the B.S. button, but I'd pay to be proven wrong. But I like your style! By god son you got style!
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Mr. Brooks. Let me ask you. How many shots did you take upside down, over your head, yada yada, before you cut that string? 1. 2. 3000? I know about the blind pig and the acorn.
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Mr. Hungry Horse I would love to be a part of your shoot. But with my luck you hold it in Northern Jabip. Just where is your shindig and can folks like me attend?
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Unless of course Georgia is playing in the Sugar Bowl.
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Go DAWGS !!! :D
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Mr. Brooks. Let me ask you. How many shots did you take upside down, over your head, yada yada, before you cut that string? 1. 2. 3000? I know about the blind pig and the acorn.
Wasn't cutting strings. Was splitting the ball on the axe. We generally used the upside down shot to break ties because if we shot it right side up we'd be there all day. Had some extraordinary shots in our club back in the day.
If the ax was vertical it it wasn't a bad shot. If the axe was horizontal it was much harder.
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If the ax was vertical it it wasn't a bad shot. If the axe was horizontal it was much harder.
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Easy shot!
Just hold the rifle sideways ( horizontal ) ::)
Fred
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Still, a fine feat of marksmanship! I'd miss the ax and set my hair of fire. Or I'd hit the ax, it would ricochet and go through the windshield of my truck and then set my hair on fire.
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Over in Columbus Georgia they have a turkey shoot with all the above. Ball split-string cut and feather cut. Plus they have clay pigeons at about 80yds. with a motor that rotates them over a log and back down. You have to sight on the log and shoot when the turkey(clay pigeon) pops his head up. It is slow enough to get a good sight picture but since it is moving, you can't wait. Before you get the timing down, you almost most jerk the trigger guard off the stock trying to get the shot off. Lots of fun.
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Was in a hunting club south of Columbus. Cuthbert Ga. A couple of miles from the river. Deer thick as fleas. I sure miss it!
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If the ax was vertical it it wasn't a bad shot. If the axe was horizontal it was much harder.
Easy shot!
Just hold the rifle sideways ( horizontal ) ::)
Fred
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Can't shoot upside down with the gun side ways.
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The Newyears day Shootwhatchabrung match is held at the Konocti Rod And Gun Club range in Lakeport California. It is open to any gun legal to own in Calif. ( that's getting to be a much smaller number) and no cartridge guns don't win all that often. First prizes over the years have ranged from very high end bottles of whiskey or Scotch, to muzzleloading gun kits, and the last few years was simply a hundred dollar bill.
The shooting is followed by a lunch that has turned into a sort of event of its own. I usually provide something traditional for New Years, for the crowd to eat. Most often it is Hoppinjohn, and cornbread, but since I ran a little short a couple of years ago, many participants bring their favorite hot dish to share. Of course this turned into a contest, with bragging rights as first prize.
Hungry Horse
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Sounds like a real hoot! But alas I'll have to find something a bit closer to Tn. I understand how recipes can be a closely guarded secret, but what are the core ingredients of your Hoppinjohn? Is that akin to Brunswick Stew? 3 meats, lots of veggies and a thick stock?
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S.P. You live in Tennessee and don't know what's in Hoppinjohn? O.K. This is my grannies recipe from Arkansas. The only real difference between the Arkansas version, and those of Southern areas farther south is the meat used, and the greens added. The general recipe has black eyed peas, rice, some kind of meat, (generally pork) onions, red pepper flakes, and some kind of greens. Deep South versions usually have collards added as the greens. Real Arkansas Hoppinjohn often has Poke salad as the green of choice. But my granny always used Okra because Poke is pretty hard to come by in January. Meat can be any or all of the following, Smoked hamhocks, bacon, or ham, and I have even had it with Andouille sausage, and shrimp. I like to buy frozen black eyed peas instead of dried, and frozen okra, and whatever smoked pork is the cheapest. Short grained rice will thicken it up nicely, and give it better body. Pretty good stuff, I've never had to bring any home. It's supposed to be eaten on New Years to bring good luck according to Southern legend.
Hungry Horse
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When you say poke salad I say dandy lion greens. You say can be one of the above on meat. If your me, before payday, it's squirrel rabbit venison. If your me on payday impressing my girlfriends father it's chicken, pork and beef. ALWAYS copious(ibid) amounts of taters. Peas carrots and whatever's handy. No rules just right. So they say. Texas Pete, Tabasco, Dave's insanity if you have the cahoonies. What matters most is the corn bread. Preheated cast iron only. Lard or bacon drippings only. No heart friendly. No low cal lean quisine. Stick to your ribs yum yum.
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But I think we digress! This is a subject all it's own. And worth it! Dutch oven masterpieces. One pot camp cookin. No matter. The corn bread or the biscuits and coffee will sustain a man, or woman, when meat on the hoof just don't wanna cooperate. And of course there always sloosh.
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You're making some kind of hillbilly stew. Hoppinjohn is more like a gumbo, or jumbelia. If you gotta have some woods meat, try coon, or possum, something with some grease in it. And forget the root crops, go with greens or okra. Otherwise your going to have to call it something else. And I have no guarantees on the luck changing abilities of Hoppinjohn made with squirrel. oh, and Tabasco is pepper flavored vinegar IMO.
Hungry Horse
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When it comes to coon you gotta parboil it first. When it comes to possum you gotta par boil it on a cedar plank, till tender, then throw possum away and eat cedar plank. Ain't nuthin greasier than a trash can possum. No green will suck up that foulness. But it's still better than store bought bologna.
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And yes. You can call it Hillbilly Stew. But your tongue will still smack a hole in your head to get more. And when you come in from the field who cares what it's called?
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When it comes to coon you gotta parboil it first. When it comes to possum you gotta par boil it on a cedar plank, till tender, then throw possum away and eat cedar plank. Ain't nuthin greasier than a trash can possum. No green will suck up that foulness. But it's still better than store bought bologna.
You're really making me hungry now..... :P
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Right
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Knocking a paintball off a golf tee is our hardest shot. You can't break the tee. I did it once by luck, even though I've split the ball and cut the card a few time (also by luck :))...
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Knocking a paintball off a golf tee is our hardest shot. You can't break the tee. I did it once by luck, even though I've split the ball and cut the card a few time (also by luck :))...
That would be a tough shot. I have also been to matches where you have to light a match from about 10 feet. Never done it myself. You have to know where your gun shoots at ten feet and most people have no idea...including me!
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What's real funny is the posts about nobody round here can see a darn thing,needing all kinds of sight help to special glasses including me,yet we are shooting string,putting out candles,splitin balls,card cutting ect.Are we talking about the shooting we did yesterday or yesteryear,just funning of course ;)
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What's real funny is the posts about nobody round here can see a darn thing,needing all kinds of sight help to special glasses including me,yet we are shooting string,putting out candles,splitin balls,card cutting ect.Are we talking about the shooting we did yesterday or yesteryear,just funning of course ;)
I'm talking about my "glory days". I can't see crapola anymore. ::)