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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Shreckmeister on June 26, 2016, 08:58:13 PM

Title: Patchbox ID
Post by: Shreckmeister on June 26, 2016, 08:58:13 PM

 This Patrick box lid and finial reminded me of Martin Fry it's on A 46 inch octagon to round smooth bore gun. Looking for other ideas on the maker.

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Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: jdm on June 27, 2016, 01:19:32 AM

I think I remember seeing a Michael Edwards rifle with a similar patch box. His work is much better than this(sorry). More engraving.  He did work in York county .That may be a place to look.  I can't tell from the picture but maybe this is a possibility.

Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: okieboy on June 27, 2016, 10:28:35 PM

I would like to see more of the gun. It looks like a very attractive buttstock.

Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: Shreckmeister on June 27, 2016, 10:51:10 PM

I'll post photos of the rest of the gun.  It curiously had a Rupp like architecture with a York County Patchbox finial.

Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: Tim Crosby on June 27, 2016, 10:57:34 PM

 The piercings remind me of a Sells attributed gun, Pg 415 of Kindig's Thoughts on the Ky rifle.

  Tim C.

Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: Shreckmeister on June 28, 2016, 06:30:18 PM

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Here's a nice curly trigger.

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Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: Hurricane ( of Virginia) on June 29, 2016, 09:51:27 PM

I sort of agree with Schreck as the top patchbox leaf fits differently against the buttplate...? ( added or replaced) and perhpas the lid extends a bit beyond the butt plate rest as well ( could be angle of photo)?
Hurricane

Title: Re: Patchbox ID
Post by: Nate McKenzie on June 30, 2016, 04:37:27 AM

I have a very similar rifle marked J. Roop on the barrel and the lock. It is in the ALR museum. Here is a link.     http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=7481.0