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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: Seth Isaacson on November 14, 2016, 09:02:28 PM
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What is the longest piece you've seen?
I just finished looking at an early 18th century Dutch gun with a 111 inch long barrel, a 78 caliber smooth bore, 126 inch overall length, and slightly ornate furniture without engraving. At first glance I assumed it was going to be a wall gun; however; it's bore is fairly small for that purpose, and it has no evidence of a hook or swivel for firing from a wall. The other wall guns I've seen have also had plain military style side plates. Obviously this beast couldn't have been fired off-hand. I can't get pictures of it, but the lock is signed by Filippe de Selier of Liege (active around the 1690s-1720).
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I saw a flint fowler, Berks County, with an 78 inch barrel that went from Oct to round to Oct. Nothing like what you
are describing.
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78 inches still seems excessive. That barrel shape combination must have been cumbersome to make. This gun's barrel is in the typical round musket style.
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Only pictures I can find of it.
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This was posted by "Feltwad" in another Thread by mistake. TC
Enclosed is a image of a 2 bore flintlock Bank Gun used in the sand dunes or on the see wall to shoot waders and fowl along the shoreline on the incoming tide.
Feltwad
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi79.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj152%2FRamrod_2006%2FP1010021-1.jpg&hash=bf1280fe3ee5aaad58845337b2137702c75d207a) (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/Ramrod_2006/media/P1010021-1.jpg.html)
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That is a hefty looking and attractive gun. Dog lock?
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That is a hefty looking and attractive gun. Dog lock?
Looks like it, but I don't believe it's an early gun, although I may be wrong....
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That is a hefty looking and attractive gun. Dog lock?
Looks like it, but I don't believe it's an early gun, although I may be wrong....
I think its one he restored back to brand new condition..
John
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That is a hefty looking and attractive gun. Dog lock?
Looks like it, but I don't believe it's an early gun, although I may be wrong....
I think its one he restored back to brand new condition..
John
This Bank gun is by Henry Blyth 1710-1750 Restored in the 1970,s restocked and taken from the original stock which was to far gone with woodworm a new cock and frizzen fitted
Feltwad
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I have a 72" barreled full stock fowler in 20 bore. Overall length is 7'4" and weight is at 11#. Have a shooting stick because it is awkward but have shot it offhand.
Mark
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Do you find that the extra long barrel actually helps your patterns and hunting much? It seems to me for most purposes the length would be less practical and manageable.
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A barrel that is 12" longer than another barrel will make your pattern tighter 12" further out than the shorter one.
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A barrel that is 12" longer than another barrel will make your pattern tighter 12" further out than the shorter one.
;D I knew that was the case with modern guns, but I didn't know if the shot with black powder also stabilized fairly quickly and is dictated primarily by the choke since the propelant does not burn nearly as fast.
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As for shooting, I've only fired RB out of it so can't speak to patterns. As for hunting, you've got to be a little bit nuts to try and lug a 72" barreled gun through the woods or take a passing shot at birds. Shooting sitting ducks from a punt, or canoe, might be a different story.
Mark
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Enclosed is a image of two Fowlers the top one is a bank gun the bottom one is a small punt gun
Feltwad
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