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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: Sequatchie Rifle on December 04, 2016, 09:15:36 PM
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Chunk was going with longer barrels for a while, though the longest _one_ I see at most matches is 6ft. I think. 4+ is pretty common. Chunk is about the only competition I can think of where 8 foot barrel would even seem to be useful...
I'm guessing it was made and used only a little, as most people would need a 4 ft or taller step ladder to load it or load it sideways???
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I'd guess his shooting check list must look like this.
Long gun; CHECK
Tripod; CHECK
Loading supplies; CHECK
Shovel for digging a 3' deep hole; CHECK
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I wonder if it had a bayonet lug… :P
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I'd love to see it in person. Heck, I'd love to fire it!
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"...the owner used three different powders in it in a sequenced loading process."
This is getting interesting...
dp
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A number of years ago I had a chance to handle a flint fowler/ trade gun with an 84" barrel. It was being called a "trade room" gun by the museum director who kept it in the vault. Supposedly had been hanging on the back wall of a treading post to encourage sales when it was collected.
There was a barrel band that made me assume a two piece stock and barrel... don't know for sure.
I never got pictures or exact measurements, I guess I'll have to get back there and see it again.
Kevin
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So, not a Rayl barrel? I doubt Charlie Bowers made barrel, maybe the rifle. Is he the name on those unspeakable things? That is his speciality, and they're nice.
The number of people who could make that barrel is low :). One thought was maybe Wayne Jenkins made it, but I believe his limit was close to what Rayl said. Paul Griffith, maybe?
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...S.R. ....Helluva long rifle.....Sorry I missed you @ the CW show last Sunday.....See you at the Bama show at Wheeler in January...!!! :o :o
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Maybe Jim Chambers could recollect Charlie Bowers in the western part of our state. I keep tabs on the gunmakers in central and eastern NC, and the name does not ring a bell. The only feller I know who could make any barrel is John Braxton from Alamance County. He might know Mr Bowers, but I expect Jim would know if he reads this.
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Don Getz had made a few longer barrels that were threaded at the wedding band. It was almost impossible to see the joint inside or out. .62 fowlers oct to round.
Kevin
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Wasn't Ben Coogle noted for making long barrels?
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The long one could also be a barrel from the "revival" period, where it was not uncommon to buttweld two old barrel together to get a longer barrel, sight radius, etc.
Charlie Bowers is very much alive last time I saw him. He makes the benchmark (censored) action that many chunk shooters use. I can probably find you contact info if you can't find it otherwise.
Looking forward to seeing more pictures. I would love to see the banned ones also, as they sound like top flight chunk guns, even with those "short" barrels, but alas, it cannot be :).
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Maybe Jim Chambers could recollect Charlie Bowers in the western part of our state. I keep tabs on the gunmakers in central and eastern NC, and the name does not ring a bell. The only feller I know who could make any barrel is John Braxton from Alamance County. He might know Mr Bowers, but I expect Jim would know if he reads this.
Sounds like something John would do and he was/is into chunk guns. I saw him a couple years ago and he wasn't doing anything then so I don't know. John did have the capability.
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Wasn't Ben Coogle noted for making long barrels?
Coogle would go 72" but no rifling.
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My son standing next to the 8 ft 2 in rifle that we picked up today. Discovered today that Bobby Hoyt did the barrel rifling. My son is 5' 10".
You are going to have to build him a loading stool :)
Dennis
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How many of us do you think could even see the front sight :)?!
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Id love to show up at the York shoot with that rifle, but I wouldn't like the jokes about what I'm trying to compensate for"....
Makes my 54" barreled chunk gun seem short.
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Hey it's a close range squirrel gun! Really cool! Any more pictures? Thanks, ghost
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"I figure I can wrap them in bubble wrap and hang them out the back of my truck with a red flag"
"Hill Billies"
Even the truck isn't big enough!!!!
Just kidding!
Great looking gun!
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I'll bet that thing is real heavy.
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The wood looks like oak to me. And the bore is .47? Holy cow, what is the barrel OD? I'm guessing 1 1/4" +. WOW!
-Ron
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Was told it weighs 38 lbs., but haven't handled it personally. I'll probably get it this weekend.
I built a wall gun years ago that weighed 38lbs. It had a 1" bore with a 60" barrel.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F0703%2FGunmaker%2FWall%2520Gun%2Fwall_gun_1.jpg&hash=60399d78fce286d1ec568eeceb9bfa1bc291bd70)
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ouch!!!!
who pulled the trigger on that one????
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Thanks for the pictures!!!
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ouch!!!!
who pulled the trigger on that one????
Recoil would be non-issue. My .50 Cal chunk setup is lightweight at ~15#, and 100 gr. Goex 2f is barely noticeable. That gun could probably be loaded to 150 gr. and not hurt a thing. Carrying it around on the other hand...
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Reckon I would be using the kids as gun layers, you just stay at the but end, 1 kid rams a charge home, next kid, the patched ball, the third kid, spikes you around or wedges the muzzle till you are ok, then all you do is squeeze off !! @!*% that is some rifle gun !! reckon it would make the down under fun police have a big old coniption fit !! Will be most interested on a range report , Merry Christmas to you all from Down Under !!
Gordon
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Simply amazing! What is the ramrod made of? Or was I absent the day that was covered?
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I can't tell in the photo... where is the rear sight?
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...WOW...great gun...!!! ...Did you bring her to the Alabama show..??...I just now noticed that she uses a converted Flint lock...!!! ...THAT is a nice touch, too....!!! ;D ;D ;D
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I did, and may drag it up to Jamestown next month.
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...I could only attend Bama show on Sat. ...sorry I missed you..... I plan on going up to Lake Cumberland on Feb. 3&4....Please bring her up to JimTown for the shoot.....Boys will love her up there...!!!
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I found this, claims to be 10foot barrel
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FfgXwbF%2FWxzk_CXW_1.jpg&hash=d7130c0dd9866b92dd773684386c38966f2ca1f3) (http://ibb.co/bUdrAa)
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Sequatchi,
In one post you say it is 8'2" overall and also that it has an 8' barrel ?? I have a fowler with a 6' barrel that is 7'4" overall.
Mark
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Bill: that is certainly an interesting piece to add to your collection. Great acquisition!!
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Amazing. I have a Bowers/Rayl chunk gun too, but as has been said, I can't show it here, well, because, you know. My barrel is .54cal x 54" long. Shooting it is a workout cuz it weighs 33lbs. What's the weight on this 8-footer?
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yes, I can't imagine loading or cleaning it.
Just use water, no carb or brake cleaners, Windex, eye of Newt potion or anything containing bear grease or bees wax.