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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: JCKelly on March 27, 2017, 03:32:04 AM

Title: Hawken with Thingy in the side
Post by: JCKelly on March 27, 2017, 03:32:04 AM
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/2013/141#detail
This 42" barreled Hawken just sold at RIA for about $980. What fascinates me (ju$t not enuff to bid on it) is that round thing in the buttstock, ringed about with eight tacks and with two thongs coming out of it.
What is it?
I might guess it a grease hole, hard to imagine that little plug staying in there for very much outdoor use.
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2Fk3GpwF%2FHawken_RIA_tacks.jpg&hash=a64234111aacab17302f239af8addaa3a95ac785) (http://imgbb.com/)

high quality photo upload (http://imgbb.com/)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fn2nOOv%2FHawken_RIA.jpg&hash=8a6e2e88f85ab2d8664754874f4617ce89ed3111) (http://ibb.co/nu4RbF)

upload to album (http://imgbb.com/)

It fascinates me as I'd like to get up a more-or-less Indian style rifle. Anyone have experience with how such a "stopper" might actually work? One of the fairly recent books shows a Leman with tacks surrounding what looks like a larger "tack" in the center.

And thank you Kingsburry arms for this new photo feature, and you Dennis Glazener for explaining it in a manner that even I understood!
Title: Re: Hawken with Thingy in the side
Post by: Joe S. on March 27, 2017, 12:37:52 PM
are you certain it's a plug and not just a larger tack.Could be just more decoration and had maybe feathers or such hanging from it?Close up it does look to be a plug or atleast different material than the surrounding tacks.
Title: Re: Hawken with Thingy in the side
Post by: Dphariss on March 27, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
Does make one wonder. But the plains indians liked their decoration and "medicine". At this date we will never know what it really was.

Dan
Title: Re: Hawken with Thingy in the side
Post by: RAT on April 17, 2017, 06:53:41 AM
Looks to me like a concho.
Title: Re: Hawken with Thingy in the side
Post by: Shreckmeister on April 17, 2017, 06:04:26 PM
I'm with RAT.  Concho