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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: draken on April 26, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
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What do the builders on here use: an actual breech plug wrench, or a crescent wrench. Dixie listed a plug wrench in one in their catalogs twenty-some years ago but I don't remember seeing one anywhere else....ever. ???
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I have always used a big crescent wrench. Never had a problem yet
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I have one from Rice Barrel Co. Excellent!
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I use an old monkey wrench that I picked up for a dollar or two at a flea market. Because the jaws a slightly sprung, it fits a breech plug perfectly.
Dale H
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Using a big Crescent wrench w/ copper shims works well, but sometimes a 2 foot length of pipe is req'd......Fred
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I've tried monkey, pipe wrenches, but really like Rice's breech plug wrench! 8)
Gus
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A large Crescent wrench
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+1 on the Rice wrench.
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It's been a few years but several breech plug wrench's were pictured on this topic before. A search of past posts on this topic should reveal many ideas.
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Plus two Rice Barrel Company's breech plug wrench and while you're at it get their vise jaws for barrels also. No more scarred up breech plugs and barrels. Yep I used brass shims and all sorts of cluge jobs to get breech plugs out best money I've spent with regard to removing and installing regular breech plugs. Tim
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A large Crescent wrench
Make sure it's a decimal crescent wrench and not a metric ;D ;D
Bob Roller
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I use a small crescent wrench. Put the wrench over the bottom of the plug and make sure that the jaws do not extend over the top of the tang. If the jaws do go over the top of the tang it can mess it up. Have to put a pipe over the handle to actually turn it.
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Bob, what if it's a European gun, can you use a metric adjustable end wrench? (I had a high school metal shop teacher who wouldn't let you check tools out of the tool room unless you called them their proper names). Dittos with only wrenching from the bottom.
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+3 on the Rice wrench (and their vise jaws for the barrel). ;D
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Smooth jaw, Stilson wrench ;). $5 at an antique\flee store
My good one says Ford on the handle !!
Respect Always
Metalshaper\Jonathan
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Jonathan, The Ford ones are pretty common, as there was one in the tool kit of every Ford car and truck from the model T to about 1952. I have one in my '49 truck.
Mark
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This is what I use. 2 pieces of ½" bar stock , one side tapped ¼"-28, the other side clearance drilled.
Long side is 24" long, as you can see, it's a little bent from a tough breech plug, but still working.
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The one I use is like Smallpatch's only mine has a long bar on both top and bottom and two bolts on each side.
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Show off!
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I used a crescent wrench for years, always got the plug off without much damage although sometimes took some "persuading". A few years ago at Friendship, bought a plug wrench and vise jaws from Jason. Combined with a 3/4 inch cheater bar, removing the toughest plug is as simple as unscrewing a water bottle. Wouldn't dream of using anything else now.
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On the breech plug wrench the one I made is similar to the one shown by smallpatch. Made from 7/8 square stock main part 18 “long, Bottom 4”. Bolts are ½ X 3 1/2 alien cap screws. First ½ “ from end space between 3”. Care is taken to tighten evenly on the plug. A cheater has been required a time or two.
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I made one some 20 or more years ago similar to smallpatch's except no long leg and I drilled my holes so as to use nuts.I use a 12" cresent,a smooth jaw ford wrench or put a piece of pipe over the longer leg ,if needed. It has not failed me yet.
George
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Bob, what if it's a European gun, can you use a metric adjustable end wrench? (I had a high school metal shop teacher who wouldn't let you check tools out of the tool room unless you called them their proper names). Dittos with only wrenching from the bottom.
Metric adjustable wrenches have very fine threads on the adjustment or so I've been told. ;D
I HOPE there is nobody on this forum that believes either of us.
Proper nomenclature can be useful. Crescent is actually a brand name but it now applies to
nearly any wrench with a screw adjustable jaw.
Bob Roller
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Jonathan, The Ford ones are pretty common, as there was one in the tool kit of every Ford car and truck from the model T to about 1952. I have one in my '49 truck.
Mark
PD,
Yeah I knew it wasn't a special wrench, but still works good and is reasonably tight and smooth in operation. Found a couple of other ones, that I have gifted to fellow builders who liked mine😀. Plus my grandpa in law and father in law were both Ford employees!!
So they both thought it was cool😎
Respect Always
Metalshaper\jonathan