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General discussion => Black Powder Shooting => Topic started by: hanshi on October 04, 2017, 01:28:24 AM
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Which guns/rifles will the rest of the forum be using this year for both large and small game?
Any small game I go after will be hunted with the .36 SMR; accurate to a fault. Here - chasing deer - in my local bailiwick it will be my flintlock .62 smoothbore. At the range today my usual good load of 70 grains of 3F, a paper op wad and a 330 grain ball nestled in a mink oil lubed flannel patch. I tried it using 2F and it was as dismal as always. At 50 yards this combo is centered and groups 3 shots well under 3". In WV I'll take my .50 flintlock - 70 grains of 3F and a .490" ball, mink oil on a .020" to .022" depending on what material I use. The flint .45 will stand by in case it's needed. 60 grains of 3F under a .440" ball, mink oil patched with the same fabric as the .50.
T - B/ .36, .50, .45 and .62.
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My most often "grab and go" hunting gun is my .62 cal fowler. In CA we have to hunt with lead-free projectiles. I have two guns set up for lead-free options. One is my fowler where I can use ITX lead-free shot, or ITX lead-free roundball. I have a .50 cal Isaac Haines style rifle that shoots ITX .487 roundball tolerably well. But I like the versatility of a smoothbore, and I seem to shoot my PA folder better than my rifle for some strange reason.
K
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My most often "grab and go" hunting gun is my .62 cal fowler. In CA we have to hunt with lead-free projectiles. I have two guns set up for lead-free options. One is my fowler where I can use ITX lead-free shot, or ITX lead-free roundball. I have a .50 cal Isaac Haines style rifle that shoots ITX .487 roundball tolerably well. But I like the versatility of a smoothbore, and I seem to shoot my PA folder better than my rifle for some strange reason.
K
On another site, one of the members re-printed the law concerning lead-free projectiles and it stated 'by' 2019. Perhaps the laws differ in different locations.
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I'm using my 10 bore Chamber's New England fowling gun. Round balls or shot, it's a game getter. Deer are usually within 50 yards, and black bear much less than that. My last one was 10 yards away. Right now I'm going after ducks and geese on my beaver pond.
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For deer and fall turkey here in PA it will be the same rifle.....
.45 cal JP Beck bench copy of an original built by Ron Luckenbill. 47 1/4" custom Rayl barrel. My favorite of all my guns and it's a shooter!
(Looks a little shiny in the pics because I had just waxed it up...she usually doesn't look that snazzy ;) )
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For small game I use a 36. Deer my little 24 in Oct/round smooth bore. 62 caliber. It's perfect for stalking in the swamps. Also great in a pop-up blind. One fast handling little gun. Oldtravler
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Daryl, In 2008, it started with the Condor area lead ban for big game, (which banned lead from only a fifth or so of the states hunting zones). Then in 2015 they started rolling out a full lead ban statewide. As of 2016, All upland game throughout the entire state requires lead-free. In 2019, big game will be added and the State will be 100% lead-free, but my local deer hunting zone has been lead free since 2008 due to it being a historic Condor habitat, although there has not been a condor here in at least a hundred years...
K
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Beautiful rifle, Matt. Eye candy, IMHO.
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Beautiful long skinny rifle, Matt. Love it.
I have one of those with a .50 bl. 48" made by the late, Don Getz of this forum. RIP
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Master Blaster. 29 1/2 swamped .58 Colerain barrel. Chambers lock. Season a week and a half away. Not very pumped up about it.
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Love the eye candy! And Mike, get yourself enthused, buster!
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I'll be using my Tip Curtis made .54 cal Flintlock with a 42" Colerain radius bottom groove barrel.
Using 100 grns. ffg Goex pushing a .530 round ball with a mink oil pillow ticking patch.
That is a Rich Pierce flint in its jaw. Still have a few left I'll be using this year too.
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Daryl, In 2008, it started with the Condor area lead ban for big game, (which banned lead from only a fifth or so of the states hunting zones). Then in 2015 they started rolling out a full lead ban statewide. As of 2016, All upland game throughout the entire state requires lead-free. In 2019, big game will be added and the State will be 100% lead-free, but my local deer hunting zone has been lead free since 2008 due to it being a historic Condor habitat, although there has not been a condor here in at least a hundred years...
K
And that's exactly how we lose gun rights.Chipping away little by little.
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Hi Folks,
Had a successful hunt this past weekend, killed a nice young buck with my Bucks county styled rifle. Shot centered the brisket and pierced the heart, quick, clean kill. Really all I could hope for!
What a thrill, even after 47 years of hunting it still gets my heart trip hammering! Never gets old big game or small.
I hope everyone has as satisfying and successful season.
Best of luck to all,
Harry
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Love the eye candy! And Mike, get yourself enthused, buster!
Never even loaded the gun.... :-\
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Always spoilt for choice.
Mebbe this, now it's repaired?
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Or maybe Dudley, the short one...had my Jeager out. Longrifles in the shed...2 of them. Always think I'd like to try something else, whatever I'm carrying!
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99.9 percent of the time it will be Samson in my hands. A Don Bruton 62 cal iron mounted rifle made from his Boone pattern.
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Nice!
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I could show ya'll a fine picture of my rifle but every time I nail one of those nice venison on the hoof's, this old man is just too darn toot'n tired and busy to take any pictures! ;D
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Very nice guns and great deer. Got back from WV Sunday evening with no deer. Saw a few but got no shot; hunted with a friend using a bow. We both got skunked. Did see a couple of bears, however. We were sitting on a low ridge when we saw #2. He was enormously fat. We watched him for a few minutes and he suddenly noticed us and came up to say "Howdy". He stopped about 30 yards from us and studied us. Satisfied, he continued ambling to his destination. He was still hanging around when fading light sent us back home. Don't know what caused it, but several coyotes were singing over the next hill. Carried my .50, alas.
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For squirrels it will be my .40 with 30 gr of 3F, .390 bal and .015 ticking patch.
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For close in deer and turkey hunting it will be my 12ga English fowler. For deer it will be loaded with 100 gr of 1F, a wool wad and a .690 ball patched with .025 denim. I have the gun sighted in at 35 yards.
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If I can see 100 yards in one of the stands on the land I hunt will take my rather crude first build, a .54 I call Sorta' Beck. I was trying to make a Beck rifle and missed the mark a good bit. Anyway it is a mighty fine shooter with 85gr of 2F, a wool wad and a .530 ball wrapped in .015 ticking.
Last weeks deer;
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Great deer kills, guys. I just hope I don't have to eat an old boot or tin can again this year.
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Great deer kills, guys. I just hope I don't have to eat an old boot or tin can again this year.
I'm eatin' a cow! :P
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I'm eatin' a cow! :P
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My friend DID give me a nice package of Kentucky "elk burger".
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Hanshi,
I would love to be eating some Kentucky elk, Just never have been drawn in the Tag lottery. I'll keep trying though. I will be going back to Colorado next September for the Muzzle-loading Elk and Deer season (if I get drawn!) though. Who knows, maybe Elk will be on the menu next Thanksgiving!
I smoked some Venison loin and a couple of venison steaks over the weekend. Wow, really good! Gonna have to try to get a doe during the late muzzle-loader season here in KY.
Hope you all have a good season and Nice Holidays!
Harry
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Great deer kills, guys. I just hope I don't have to eat an old boot or tin can again this year.
I'm eatin' a cow! :P
I am eating pork.
I have given up hunting because of age and heart problems. I still shoot paper targets at local range when weather permits.
If I were to go Deer hunting it would be with my 20 gauge fowler that Mike Brooks made. I do shoot it at pie plates when I get the urge to shoot. I get lot enjoyment out of just looking at the gun and knowing it will be handed down to my grandson. It is one my favorite guns. So light and nimble.