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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: Jeff Kangas on March 23, 2018, 03:06:48 AM

Title: Netting Club Butt Fowler
Post by: Jeff Kangas on March 23, 2018, 03:06:48 AM
A few weeks ago I was having a few beers while browsing an online auction site (often a dangerous combination) and became the new owner of a Ken Netting Club Butt Dog Lock Fowler (No. 387). It has a 60" long barrel and appears to be a 20 gauge. I'm trying to figure out what region (New England or Hudson Valley?) and time period (late 17th or early 18th century maybe?) it might have been made to represent. Any assistance in this regard would be greatly appreciated.


(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fnhq7nx%2FDoglock1.jpg&hash=7a0ed982632e2ffd8eb51f24de3b1e41fbcd4f4e) (http://ibb.co/iDV7nx)



(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FgkTA7x%2FDoglock2.jpg&hash=b0e86f0526252837ded8362cb6bc4dbca4bb1c9b) (http://ibb.co/cQr8uc)
Title: Re: Netting Club Butt Fowler
Post by: Joe S on March 23, 2018, 05:22:52 AM
Not a club butt fowler. Hudson Valley Fowler, early 1700's. Club butt fowlers and Hudson Valley Fowlers are very different guns. The standard reference these days is Flintlock Fowlers: The First Guns Made in America by Tom Grinslade. Take a look and you'll see the difference.

Is this the same gun?

http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2012/01/ken-netting-fowler.html
Title: Re: Netting Club Butt Fowler
Post by: Jeff Kangas on March 23, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
Thanks - I’ll have to get that book. Not the same gun, but very similar. Mine has a round barrel.
Title: Re: Netting Club Butt Fowler
Post by: n stephenson on March 23, 2018, 04:01:06 PM
Not a club butt fowler. Hudson Valley Fowler, early 1700's. Club butt fowlers and Hudson Valley Fowlers are very different guns. The standard reference these days is Flintlock Fowlers: The First Guns Made in America by Tom Grinslade. Take a look and you'll see the difference.

Is this the same gun?

http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2012/01/ken-netting-fowler.html
The gun on the blog has #324  on the butt plate.  Nice Gun!!! Jeff
Title: Re: Netting Club Butt Fowler
Post by: conquerordie on March 23, 2018, 08:10:23 PM
I'd say HVF and meant to date the first quarter of the 1700s. Beautiful Fowler
Greg